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Old 01-23-2007, 01:48 PM
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Yes , of course, but "just as nice" is in the eyes of the buyer. None, of those you mention register on my interest meter. I enjoy my familiarity with MB. Learning another brand would require too much effort.

PS: I just noticed the little decal just over the hinge for the door check strap. To be oiled every, 7,500 km.

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Steve
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:16 PM
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Yes , of course, but "just as nice" is in the eyes of the buyer. None, of those you mention register on my interest meter. I enjoy my familiarity with MB. Learning another brand would require too much effort.

PS: I just noticed the little decal just over the hinge for the door check strap. To be oiled every, 7,500 km.

Regards,

Steve
Depends on what your looking for. The quality of the burled walnut and leather in a Jag is much superior to that found in most MB's. The road feel and finesse of most BMW's is different than that of an MB. For spirited driving I honestly prefer the BMW's.

All that said my choice was obviously the MB.
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:38 PM
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The late 90's-01 model BMW 7 series are a NIGHTMARE to maintain. More so than the 140. My fathers girlfriend has a 00 740iL. It has been nothing but problems. If its not one thing its another. The pixels in the dash go out,both front windows failed in the down position within a week of eachother. The list is too long to list. It is plagued with oil leaks and electrical problems. I really do not understand why people on this board make such a huge deal about the evaporator on these vehicles. IF IT GOES OUT JUST HAVE IT FIXED. If you cannot afford $3,000-$4,000, you DO NOT need to own an S class Mercedes.
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:51 PM
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The late 90's-01 model BMW 7 series are a NIGHTMARE to maintain. More so than the 140. My fathers girlfriend has a 00 740iL. It has been nothing but problems. If its not one thing its another. The pixels in the dash go out,both front windows failed in the down position within a week of eachother. The list is too long to list. It is plagued with oil leaks and electrical problems. I really do not understand why people on this board make such a huge deal about the evaporator on these vehicles. IF IT GOES OUT JUST HAVE IT FIXED. If you cannot afford $3,000-$4,000, you DO NOT need to own an S class Mercedes.
Great words of wisdom from an M3 driver.

People make a big deal out of the evaporator core on these vehicles because MANY drivers of these cars understand economic decision-making. Often it doesn't make sense to proceed with a repair item that can cost $3K to (sometimes) close to $5K on a car that's 12-15 years old.

People make a big deal about the evap on a W140 for the same reason that 7-series drivers complain about cooling system failures, pixel burn-out, and power window failure. What is the difference?

That said, if (when? ) mine fails, I fully intend to have it replaced.
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Old 01-23-2007, 03:36 PM
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Now that's a strange post. Clip, "MANY drivers of these cars understand economic decision-making. Often it doesn't make sense to proceed with a repair item that can cost $3K to (sometimes) close to $5K on a car that's 12-15 years old.
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Paragraph one pretty much says that you are stupid to put 3-5K in a 12-15 year old car. Note, W140 for instance produced until 1999, now 7 years old.
Smarter to dump the car and start over even though the car is in perfect shape?

I don't know what paragraph two means.

Finally, Matt says he will replace his if it fails? Guess he doesn't understand economic decision making!

Sorry, I just don't get it.

Steve
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Old 01-23-2007, 04:27 PM
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Now that's a strange post. Clip, "MANY drivers of these cars understand economic decision-making. Often it doesn't make sense to proceed with a repair item that can cost $3K to (sometimes) close to $5K on a car that's 12-15 years old.
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Paragraph one pretty much says that you are stupid to put 3-5K in a 12-15 year old car. Note, W140 for instance produced until 1999, now 7 years old.
Smarter to dump the car and start over even though the car is in perfect shape?

I don't know what paragraph two means.

Finally, Matt says he will replace his if it fails? Guess he doesn't understand economic decision making!

Sorry, I just don't get it.

Steve
Try this - worry about what I DID say rather than what I "pretty much" said.

If I plan to keep the car another 5 to 7 years then it odes make sense. Especially if I do the work myself. Then again I did not say that, so perhaps I left the door open for assumptions.
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Old 01-23-2007, 07:21 PM
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Matt, I am not sure I understand your point in mentioning that I own a M3. The reason I know to stay away from the 7 series is because I own an M3. My service advisor has said from the get go that the 7 series is where the shop makes their money. The 3 series platform as mentioned before is the most produced and most reliable BMW. My M3 is no exception. Yet you mention that 140 owners "understand economic decision-making". I do-not agree, I believe the exact opposite. Take for example, someone who wants to spend $18,000 on a car. They see a 1999 S500 which was $100,000 new, and think wow they can have this car for $18,000. I believe people do not understand the ownership cost of these vehicles. Therefore people who "understand economic decision-making" do not often "Understand what it cost to keep these vehicles running".

I know because I own a 1998 Silver/Grey S500 with 78,000 miles. I have not had any problems with the evaporator core. But one day if I go out and my air conditioning is not cold , I will have it fixed at whatever cost. That is part of the responsibility of owning a car "MAINTAINING IT". With that said , I also live in Houston and would probably die of head exhaustion if I tried to commute in my S500 with no Air conditioning.
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