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Old 01-08-2007, 12:47 PM
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Need help car will not start !

Here is the situation. I have a 1990 Mercedes 500SL and is is currently not starting.

I had driven the car with no problems all last year and parked the car for the winter, but forgot to disconnect the battery and the battery drained completely.

Installed new battery and it will not fire, no cranking whatsoever. The battery is fine, as well as all the fuses.

Any suggestions ?
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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Corroded ground strap? Have you done an amperage draw test on the 2nd battery? Maybe it too is discharged. I have seen it before.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:55 PM
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Corroded ground strap? Have you done an amperage draw test on the 2nd battery? Maybe it too is discharged. I have seen it before.
Installed new battery and tested, it is fine. All in grounded properly as well.

I also checked the overload protection relay fuse and that is not blown. Any other suggestions ?
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:01 PM
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Tempting the obvious : Have you tested the starter? Do you have power otherwise (ie windows, radio and stuff works?)?
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:05 PM
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I have not tested the starter no, but i cannot see this being the problem as it was perfectly fine prior.

I have all other functions that the battery should produce yes ( lights, horn, etc. )
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:16 PM
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Either or both ?????


Try "N" position on shifter...............
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Thanks guys, I'll try that and post here the results shortly after
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:48 PM
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unless someone already mentioned, try arming and disarming the alarm again- I've seen that cause problems before too, try from different tumbler positions as well.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:00 PM
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Just remembered this as well. The key is not unlocking the doors manually, but when using the remote to lock / unlock it's fine. Maybe this has something to do with it ?
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:03 PM
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Anyone ?
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:21 AM
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I have tried everything you can think of to get this car started and still no luck.

I have a hunch is has something to do with the key. I have the master key for the car and the car will not lock / unlock manually. It simply will not turn the tumblers.

When I use the remote to lock / unlock it's works great. Also the MB anti theft system will only work one out of 5 times or so. ( arm system and open door and most of the time the siren will not go off )

What can be causing this problem ? Do I need a new key ? Any suggestions would be appreciated. I cannot tow this vehicle to the dealer due to the ride height!

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:03 AM
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I would suspect the alarm relay contacts.
You may want to try arming the car several times rapidly and retry start. That may help clean off the contacts..or the relay may even be bad

I do not have a 129 chassis schematic , so that is hampering the diagnosis..I have most all others
Maybe someone here has one??????????????????
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:09 AM
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I would suspect the alarm relay contacts.
You may want to try arming the car several times rapidly and retry start. That may help clean off the contacts..or the relay may even be bad

I do not have a 129 chassis schematic , so that is hampering the diagnosis..I have most all others
Maybe someone here has one??????????????????
This would cause the no start problem I am having ?
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:09 PM
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Yes

The circuit for starter is bat > ignition sw > Gear selector sw > alarm interlock relay.. Any part/break in that series chain and the starter circuit is inactive.
That is why we talked about the gear selector being in N . That is a common fault for your condition, along with the interlock relay and the fuse that feeds the relay.
Each part has to be traced and checked via the wiring diagram.
Anyone have a 129 schematic?????????????
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:25 PM
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Yes

The circuit for starter is bat > ignition sw > Gear selector sw > alarm interlock relay.. Any part/break in that series chain and the starter circuit is inactive.
That is why we talked about the gear selector being in N . That is a common fault for your condition, along with the interlock relay and the fuse that feeds the relay.
Each part has to be traced and checked via the wiring diagram.
Anyone have a 129 schematic?????????????
Is there a way to bypass this alarm interlock relay ? Maybe temporarily ground it out ?
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