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Old 04-17-2007, 04:28 PM
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There is a DIY article for transmission fluid changes on this site

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Old 04-17-2007, 09:15 PM
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On the MB's I drain the torque converter and drop the pan BUT the '97 Honda CRV is another matter. Up till about 150k miles I would take it to the Honda dealer and have them do the tranny fluid flush (I do not own a tranny flush machine). Now at 210k miles I just drain it and refill it. On this particular application you are unable to drain the torque converter and there is no filter to change that I know of. Tranny still works fine although it does shift a little harder than it did new.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:31 PM
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On the MB's I drain the torque converter and drop the pan BUT the '97 Honda CRV is another matter.
Yeah, those little motorcycles probably only hold a pint or two anyway.
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The reason it is so important to change the filter on an auto tranny is b/c there is constant wearing of the clutch paks and the aluminum sliding parts ..and where do you suppose these worn off debris wind up ??? .. in the filter.
The suction guys will tell you it winds up suspended in the fliud ..it does..and then the fluid just carries it to the filter.
When changing a trans fliud/filter, I open up the old filters so I can get a look at the clutch debris and aluminum wear content..this gives an insight to tranny wear ..if you ever opened one up, you would see why you want to change it..new fluid can not go through an old filter any better than the old fluid could..a blocked filter restricts oil flow and that is the last thing you want happening inside your trans..you are better off with a new filter and the old fluid than you are with new fluid trying to go through an old clogged filter...
Change them both and clean out the pan while you have it off...they can agitate all they want, they don't get the crud out of the corners of the pan like you can with it off. Do it right..trannies biggest problems are DIRT caused !!!
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Thanks for the link and the great read... I was thinking the same thing about the 60 minutes report... Just remember what your grandpa use to say, Funny thing about history, it seems to repeat it self...
Hello 60 minutes, have I got a story for you... HAHAHAHA
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All I will say is stay away from those flushing machines. Just get under there, drop the pan, and replace the filter and gasket. The machines are either a gimmick or designed to let the tech change your fluid with as little effort as possible.
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The reason it is so important to change the filter on an auto tranny is b/c there is constant wearing of the clutch paks and the aluminum sliding parts ..and where do you suppose these worn off debris wind up ??? .. in the filter.
The suction guys will tell you it winds up suspended in the fliud ..it does..and then the fluid just carries it to the filter.
When changing a trans fliud/filter, I open up the old filters so I can get a look at the clutch debris and aluminum wear content..this gives an insight to tranny wear ..if you ever opened one up, you would see why you want to change it..new fluid can not go through an old filter any better than the old fluid could..a blocked filter restricts oil flow and that is the last thing you want happening inside your trans..you are better off with a new filter and the old fluid than you are with new fluid trying to go through an old clogged filter...
Change them both and clean out the pan while you have it off...they can agitate all they want, they don't get the crud out of the corners of the pan like you can with it off. Do it right..trannies biggest problems are DIRT caused !!!
The filter used on most if all trannys are merely just screens.
I've seen a pic of a 722.6 filter cut open with 130K that was pretty spotless.

If pretty much any transmission filter gets clogged the tranny is pretty much screwed!
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Wrong..Benz uses mostly fibre element filters


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..and I have seen hundreds that were not..which is why Benz Maint/Tech specs that they be changed. No pictures, just real time filter from the car...

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Yup. That is why we change them....so they don't get to that point.
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:33 PM
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Wrong..Benz uses mostly fibre element filters


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..and I have seen hundreds that were not..which is why Benz Maint/Tech specs that they be changed. No pictures, just real time filter from the car...

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Yup. That is why we change them....so they don't get to that point.


The fiber mesh MB uses is about as effective as a screen(over a 100 micron filter).

Tranny filters are very free flowing(they need to be),if a filter gets clogged it ain't debris it's the tranny in pieces.Screwed!
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:52 PM
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..you certainly seem to know the proper care and feeding of your tranny....

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1450355#post1450355
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Old 04-21-2007, 07:44 AM
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Been over 2.5k miles with the new atf,no problema at all.

BTW,you know MB does not recommend changing the simple mesh filter on the 722.6 right.
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Yes , we know that ...you do know what a problem that tranny was , I am sure.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:31 AM
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Yes , we know that ...you do know what a problem that tranny was , I am sure.
I actually think it's a pretty good tranny actually.There are many high mileage units out there.
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Old 04-21-2007, 10:23 AM
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I actually think it's a pretty good tranny actually.There are many high mileage units out there.
Good.. I hope yours joins those other high milage units. It is your car and you can certainly service it as you wish, regardless of conventional thinking.
Good Luck and have a nice day........

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