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			Can I follow the advice for checking Diesel timing chain stretch on an M103?  If so, what is the allowable strech on an M103 in crank degrees? Thanks, Sixto 91 300SE | 
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			If the engine has been somewhat maintained, it shouldn't need a chain.  I have only replaced two in ten years of working on these engines. I would allow for 5-8 degrees of stretch on this one, but you will not find that much. (8 degrees is only 2.5% of crank rotation. ON a gas engine, that is nothing) [Edited by Benzmac on 07-03-2001 at 09:53 PM] 
				__________________ Benzmac: Donnie Drummonds ASE CERTIFIED MASTER AUTO TECHNICIAN MERCEDES SPECIALIST 11 YRS | 
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			Donnie had to point out to me about a year ago that these have a ratcheting tensioner.  Because of this, it is pointless to replace the chain for preventive maintenance reasons. Have a great day, | 
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			Larry, Please explain further: 1) Does ratcheting mean that the tensioner adjusts its 'soft' setting as the chain and guides wear? 2) Why does this feature make it pointless to replace the chain as a preventive measure? 3) Does the tensioner maintain cam timing? I can't see how this could work without a tensioner on the other side of the chain as well. 4) Thanks, Sixto 91 300SE | 
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			The ratcheting tensioner engines just have a history of chain reliability. Even if the chain wears a good bit, it will not change timing to a detrimental level. Chains are typically not changed because of their effect on timing, but because of their threat of breakage. I expect that the ratcheting tensioner maintains a tight chain thus preventing slack at any one time. If the slack is allowed at various times a whipping efffect imposes impact loading of the chain. Have a great day, Larry | 
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