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Old 03-05-2008, 02:19 PM
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While I'm thinking about it.

Apply some petroleum jelly to the surface of the spark plug you are going to drill and tap out. The PJ will catch the small shavings and keep them from falling into the cylinder when you back the plug out. Drill the hole slow and it will keep the chips bigger and easier to clean out. Also make sure that you don't drill completely throught the plug as it will blow out the back end and all that stuff falls into the cylinder and is near impossible to get out unless you crack open the head to get in there. EZ outs are great but be carefull you don't go frying pan to the fire.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:25 PM
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Apply some petroleum jelly to the surface of the spark plug you are going to drill and tap out. The PJ will catch the small shavings and keep them from falling into the cylinder when you back the plug out. Drill the hole slow and it will keep the chips bigger and easier to clean out. Also make sure that you don't drill completely throught the plug as it will blow out the back end and all that stuff falls into the cylinder and is near impossible to get out unless you crack open the head to get in there. EZ outs are great but be carefull you don't go frying pan to the fire.
No need to drill a broken spark plug- I never have.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:29 PM
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No need to drill a broken spark plug- I never have.
It depends on how bad a condition the plug is in and what kind of removal tool you are using. The ones I use that allow more torque use a small pilot hole. I have had the best results with those.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:33 PM
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It depends on how bad a condition the plug is in and what kind of removal tool you are using. The ones I use that allow more torque use a small pilot hole. I have had the best results with those.
Once the hex of the plug snaps off the only thing remaining is the thread. The hole thru the threaded part is quite large already. Use anything smaller than the proper size ez out and it will likely drop into the cylinder.
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Old 03-05-2008, 03:27 PM
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* Chas H is correct. With heat, the aluminum hole will present a slightly looser fit, not a tighter fit. That's why you apply heat (torch) around a threaded hole to work a seized stud/bolt out of it.
* The problem with replacing plugs in a hot alloy head is more of a caution than a problem. It's more likely to damage cyl head threads with overtorqueing when the threads are hot. Overtorqueing is still a problem cold but the threads are less likely to damage.
* Needless to say, the best way to tighten plugs is with a torque wrench. And the most accurate torque wrench scale in this case would be an inch-pound scale (where 18 ft-lbs would, for example, be 216 inch-lbs).
* But if you don't own an in-lb, or even ft-lb, torque wrench, work with a cold engine, put a drop or two motor oil on the plug threads and tighten the plug until you feel the crush-ring (if the plug has one) collapse. If the plug just has a tapered seat (and no crush ring), and you don't have a torque wrench, you'll just have to approximate it and tighten it until it feels gas-tight. Unfortunately, leaving a plug too loose causes a another, different set of problems.
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Old 03-05-2008, 05:54 PM
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My bad. I must have been misunderstanding what folks were telling me
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Old 03-05-2008, 07:01 PM
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My bad. I must have been misunderstanding what folks were telling me
Don't beat yourself up over this.
For many years, Vehicle Manufacturers were very adamant about changing plugs on aluminum heads when they're cold.
I believe part of the problem is, if there is any amount of combustion residue ( hard carbon ) on the end of the threads of the plug, you have a tendency to pull the threads out of the head.
A warm/hot engine ( softer threads ) increases this risk.
" Heli -Coil " time.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:29 PM
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spark plug broken

Hey guys.
I got the spark plug out with a #6 ez-out.
The advantage I had was the plug sheared off just below the nut, so the whole core and electrode came out in one piece. No need to drill.
I treated the "thread body" with penetrating fluid, tapped the ez-out lightly with a hammer to get it to bite and then gently used a 1/2 inch drive breaker bar to crack it loose.
Worked slick.
Went from a $1400 head removal estimate down to $8.95 and some hair loss. Whew!
Again thanks to all who offered their help.
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