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Old 04-22-2008, 08:54 PM
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Unhappy gas... is premium a must




Gas is ridiculous, and I'm not trying to spend a fortune here. I have a 1987 260E, the book/dash asks for premium fuel, but is that necessary. will regular do?. I know that the compression ratio and all that effect what fuel it takes but will it effect the car. the book says that if lower that premium fuel is used to not go above 2k rpms, but that gives me a top speed of 45 mph. while at the same time I don't want to spend money, I'm not trying to kill my car either

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Old 04-22-2008, 08:56 PM
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premium is a must but some have gotten away with mid grade.

do what the book says
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:15 PM
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premium is a must but some have gotten away with mid grade.

do what the book says
What he said.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:23 PM
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You could probably get away with lower octane gas, but why second guess the engineers? It only add a few more bucks to the fill up anyway. What if the engine did get harmed? Would the repair bill be less than a few bucks? Nope.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:49 PM
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As was said, the owner's manual for your car should address this issue for your specific car. I believe cars with knock sensors can generally get away with this a little "better".
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:52 PM
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Gas is ridiculous, and I'm not trying to spend a fortune here.
Spend $62-$70 on a diesel fill every time. The you will know fuel price pain.
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:41 AM
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Yeah quit complaining. Diesel costs quite a bit more than premium. And you WILL destroy your HIGH PERFORMANCE HIGH COMPRESSION MB gasser engine if you use regular. It will cause knocking and pre-ignition, slowly killing the engine. Premium is a must.

Not only would regular hurt the engine, it'd also get a lot worse MPG's because it would be running poorly....which would probably end up costing you more than running the correct fuel in the first place.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:30 AM
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Premium Gas

I got cheap and started putting midgrade on my 99 C230 Kompressor once in a while the check engine light will go on.....months later the O2 sensor gave. It was a $600 repair bill.


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You have a little bitty 156 cubic inch engine that gives your car performance similar to an American car with a much bigger V8.

You have a high-performance engine.

High performance in this case is achieved by high compression, which means premium fuel.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:48 AM
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The cost of the high grade fuel is not a limiting factor in owning the car

if you fill up with premium it will cost a little more but you will not end damaging the engine or engine related components, also you will achieve a better fuel mileage than if running on the low grade fuel.

in the long run it will not be as bad as constantly blowing O2 sensors or even damaging the pistons(which retail for over $1000 a set!)
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:50 PM
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All gas is high and premium is the "Best buy" It's only a quarter more today. Years ago when gas was only a $1.50 it and premium was $1.75. You didn't complain about the extra 25 cents. Now that regular is $3.50 premium should be .75 more or $4.25 , but it not still a quarter more. So looks like you are saving 50 cents on every gallon of premium. Let's hope Exxon doesn't see this thread
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:56 PM
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I wondered same question. I have an 86 190e 2.3-16. Its not my DD anymore, hehe. My 97 civic gets my nof these days!
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:22 PM
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:36 PM
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OK, I'll be the lone voice here.

We have a 1990 and a 1991 124. For all their lives I have mixed 50/50 premium/regular. I figure mid-grade is 89 octane, and my 87/93 mix makes 90 octane.

In the 400,000-plus miles between these two cars, at 10 cents a gallon or so difference, I've probably saved over $2000.

Never any serious engine work that had anything to do with fuel, but I did lose an oil pump once on the 1990 due to the carelessness of a mechanic who dropped a ball socket into the engine. Years later it finally broke thru the oil pump screen and locked up the oil pump.

Both cars have always averaged about 22 MPG.

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