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Poor Idle Quality, Cuts out, Misfire
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I could use some expert input/adviseideas. The following is from my mechanic describing the problem condition and test and diagnostic info. Any help would be much appreciated. thanks! -andy 1992 Mercedes-Benz 500SL Engine: 5.0 L / 8 cyl / Gas / DOHC Fuel: Fuel Injection / CIS Fuel Injection Ignition: Distributor-Breakerless / Dual Distributors W/2 coils Trans: 4-speed Automatic Transmission Mileage: 94,000 miles Emissions: OBD1 VIN: WDBFA66E8N Misc Data: 500sl Symptoms: Poor Idle Quality, Cuts out, Misfire Occurs: After a Hot Soak More Info: Test results & repair history included below ____________________________________________________________ The vehicle will start and run fine. After running for 30 minutes or more in hot weather..over 75 degrees.. if the engine is shut off and sits for 10 minutes, it will restart fine but has a bad missfire nit seems like on one cylinder but sometimes seems like multiple cylinders. The missfire is very easily noticed at stop when reving up the engine and can also be easily felt when driving the car. It will continue to miss even after hard accellerating for up to 2 minutes. Then it will smooth out and be fine for the duration of the drive. This situation will repeat itself always after a 10 minute HOT SOAK after driving in hot weather. The coils and injectors and wires etc. have all been tested. I cannot see the missfire on the scope. No codes set during the short misfire period. What can be happening during this period when the engine compartment is so hot with no air moving that corrects itself after 2 minutes of driving??? ___________________ TEST AND REPAIR DATA ___________________ Checked for codes and none were found. TESTING AND RESULTS fuel pressure - ok coil output - good RELATED REPAIR HISTORY New O2 sensor. New spark plugs. 1 new injector #5. New hydraulic pressure regulator..was leaking. Wires 7k old. |
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Start by using some BG 44k fuel system and injector cleaner. Best to do the whole intake cleaning procedure at a shop that handles BG products. Call around.
We charge $130 for this service.
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thanks but already used BG 44k fuel system and injector cleaner a few months ago.
I appreciate the suggestion. |
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Andy, if you have access to another set of good coils I'd install them and see if the problem persists.
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Fred Hoelzle |
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Crank Position Sensor is common heat soak complaint ..
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A Dalton |
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mechanic replaced both caps, rotors, seals, and crank sensor..problem remains...
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Update:
My indy replaced 8 plugs, both caps & rotors, wires, both coils, all 8 injectors and three days trying to isolate/correct the problem but no luck- he is referring me to Mercedes. We're both frustrated and disappointed. Mechanic is excellent and a great guy, no charge for time and parts- all returned back to stock. I could really use some expert advise. thanks in advance! -andy |
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Right after the condition exist, I would go into the modules and get the codes .
A simple LED tool works on that chassis [ 129.066]
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A Dalton |
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