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Urgent ques: Rubber Brake lines
Hey guys. Doing work on the 280S and I need help.
Neither my father nor I have the knowledge of this and we need to know if there's usually a ball bearing or something acting as a valve in a rubber brake line...not steel. I had to change out a steel line and we're able to bleed all lines but one. It seems to be clogged cuz I cant get the wire that I'm cleaning it with all the way through. Could it also be like a mini mini strainer/filter or something? None of the above make sense but its all we can think of. That or it's completely clogged. Your help = AWESOME.
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NEVER poke wire through the rubber brake flex hose, it damages the inner hose ply.
There is no ball or valve in the rubber brake flex hose = any blockage indicates a junk hose that MUST be replaced. Here is all the data you need on brake hoses.. Brake: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=142411 Have a great day.
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Ordered new hoses. Thanks.
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1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone ![]() CURRENT - 1974 450SEL - 1987 560SEL |
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It is possible for a piece of the inner rubber lining in a brake hose to pull away and act as a "flap" valve. This can happen in older brake hoses and result in either pressure not getting to a caliper or pressure not being released from an engaged caliper - depending on how the lining peels away. That is one reason why all rubber brake hoses should be replaced on older cars as a normal safety item. One long-time Mercedes mechanic said he found the O.E. hoses on benzes were good for 20, or so, years. Many have been left on much longer than that w/o trouble but should be replaced. Think about all that flexing going on over the years.
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The main reason brake hoses do not release after pedal application is they are constricted from swelling inside. When one applies the brake ,the Master has a great enough pressure force to flow thru the constriction, but when released , the only force to return/release the calipers is Residual pressure ..much less than pedal pressure...resulting in a hanging brake pad.
An easy test for this condition is to jack each wheel , apply the pedal force , and then hand turn that wheel..if wheel is locked [or excessive drag]. open bleeder ..if the wheel then frees , you have a bad hose. if it doesn't , you have stuck caliper.
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Nice trick, Arthur.....
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