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Old 08-11-2009, 02:52 AM
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Did it occur to you that the wrong thermostat was installed?
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:11 AM
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Did it occur to you that the wrong thermostat was installed?
? 80C is about normal....the 12mpg issue does not have anything to do with it running at 80C....it is a sensor issue. The computer is running it too rich.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:59 AM
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Hi guys,

Sorry for the late reply, I've been preparing for a hurricane coming our way (Hawaii) which it appears to be scaled down to a tropical storm now. I didn't get a chance to check the 4-pin coolant temp sensor but will do so tomorrow.

I'd like to check out all the temp sensors and order all the faulty units at the same time to save on shipping but am not sure how many there are. Besides the 4-pin, I know there's an air intake temp sensor. Are there any others, and are their resistance/temp values the same?

Regarding the thermostat, I'm not able to confirm which one was used just yet, as the mechanic is on vacation this week.

Thanks again!
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Old 08-11-2009, 08:01 AM
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...Besides the 4-pin, I know there's an air intake temp sensor. Are there any others, and are their resistance/temp values the same?
Two others:

1) one-pin sensor located at about cyl 5 for temp gauge in instrument cluster P/N 005-542-26-17
2) two-pin sensor located at about cyl 4 for high speed auxiliary fan P/N 008-542-45-17.

AFAIK, only the 4-pin coolant sensor and the intake air sensor (007-542-21-17) use the resistance/temp scale shown in the FSM.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:20 AM
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Hi guys,

I finally had a chance to check out the air intake and coolant temp sensors this evening. The readings were in line with the resistance values posted elsewhere in the forums.

I also re-checked the duty cycle and it was the same as I had set it before (~50%, oscillating) both at idle and at 2500rpm. Vacuum connections and lines checked out ok with the mity-vac.

I swapped out the O2 sensor about a year ago and it appears to still be working according to the multimeter readings. The IACV is functioning and I resoldered the connections in the OVP a year or so ago.

What else could cause such a huge drop in economy? I'd appreciate any ideas on what else I could look into. I'm thinking clogged fuel filter, leaking EHA, injectors, or cold start valve? I'm going to pull the spark plugs tomorrow to see if they have anything to say.

Thanks for any input you might have!
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:35 AM
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p.s The car doesn't have cold or hot start issues, though it burps once in a while when idle. Also, no black smoke. The car seems to run fine save for the economy issue. Thanks!
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