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Old 03-20-2010, 01:29 AM
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Thanks for the link, however...

this says "camshaft" position sensor, not "crankshaft" position sensor?

on another parts site, I find this "Crankshaft Position Sensor; TDC Sender; Front of Engine

http://tinyurl.com/ygfptf6

and then this "Camshaft Position/Reference Mark Sensor"

http://tinyurl.com/yl8nrrw

none of the pictures are the same!

which one is it!

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Old 03-21-2010, 12:44 AM
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Sorry I misled you on the link! Yes, your crankshaft sensor is the one you want, and the price looks good.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:52 PM
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Ok, now I'm a bit confused

The picture on the second link, the "Crankshaft Position Sensor; TDC Sender; Front of Engine" looks different from the other two links... and it says this on the product page:

"For models with engine serial number through 017117"
Running my VIN online, the engine number is: 119971 12 019664
does that mean it won't work?

next, if I search for the Beru part on their website, they don't call it a crankshaft position sensor, they call it a "RPM Sensor, engine management" - is this the wrong thing then?

and, lastly, http://tinyurl.com/yfomyrh shows the Beru as a crankshaft sensor, but it also makes reference to a "Rear Crankshaft Sensor"... so is it possible that I am buying the wrong one with Beru? (is the rear crankshaft sensor thus the one that Richard referred me to?)


the engine code that is written on my invoice is: EZ1-017 if that helps.

don't want to get the wrong one!
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:52 AM
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"For models with engine serial number through 017117"
Running my VIN online, the engine number is: 119971 12 019664
does that mean it won't work?

next, if I search for the Beru part on their website, they don't call it a crankshaft position sensor, they call it a "RPM Sensor, engine management" - is this the wrong thing then?

and, lastly, http://tinyurl.com/yfomyrh shows the Beru as a crankshaft sensor, but it also makes reference to a "Rear Crankshaft Sensor"... so is it possible that I am buying the wrong one with Beru? (is the rear crankshaft sensor thus the one that Richard referred me to?)
Re: the engine serial number, it means that that is not the part intended for your car; there must be a companion part intended for motors from 017118 on that you should get instead.

Richard can respond to your other question about what he meant. There is various terminology in usage, sometimes even by MBz itself in the service manual and parts catalog, where the same item is referred to by various designations. But it may clarify the issue somewhat for you to know that, at least in my car (6 cyl), the crankshaft position sensor (for ignition and fuel management) is mounted at the rear of the engine, down on the bellhousing, while the camshaft position sensor (for engine rpm) is mounted at the front of the engine.
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The rear crankshaft position sensor is the usual culprit for a hot no-start. Make sure you get the correct item- talk to a sales rep if there is a question. It seems Benz changed the configuration of the wire and connector every month or so.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:28 AM
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The rear crankshaft position sensor is the usual culprit for a hot no-start. Make sure you get the correct item- talk to a sales rep if there is a question. It seems Benz changed the configuration of the wire and connector every month or so.
Is this what they call a "camshaft position sensor" then?

Or is the only "rear crankshaft position sensor" the one that I linked to in

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and, lastly, http://tinyurl.com/yfomyrh shows the Beru as a crankshaft sensor, but it also makes reference to a "Rear Crankshaft Sensor"... so is it possible that I am buying the wrong one with Beru? (is the rear crankshaft sensor thus the one that Richard referred me to?)
and that the camshaft position sensor is still another, third part?
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:25 PM
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Crankshaft and camshaft are not synonymous, and on some engines there is indeed a sensor at the front of the crankshaft; so there could be 3 sensors. The rear crankshaft sensor is sometimes called a "reference sensor" by some parts houses, just to make it all even more murky.
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:33 PM
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look, here is how it works on BMW's at least, and I have a 1990 300TE so I believe they would do the same relative thing...although not EXACTLY the same..there IS a crankshaft position sensor on these cars.. what it does is detect TDC and tell the computer...GO..start firing injectors and spark and stuff....once the engine fires you no longer need the crankshaft position sensor, unless you turn the engine and try to restart it....your engine will never simply shut down due to a crankshaft sensor problem..no way
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Old 03-22-2010, 10:54 PM
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well great

i've ordered the part - almost at the point of no return where the mechanic will install it...

so, was the dealership's diagnosis wrong? or inaccurate in that, sure, a CPS may be faulty, but that's not what's causing me to (now) have stalling issues when driving the car after idling for a long-enough time???
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I had the same problem on my '92 300 CE of a bad "hot start" and it turned out I was not getting spark to the coil.

I had to replace my EZL. We did the "rap test" and it fired right up. Only thing I could think of was the EZL when heated up had an internal problem.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:22 AM
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Oh, by the way, I found this out after replacing my crankshaft sensor.

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