Correct safety procedure for 124 airbag removal? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Chas H · #1 11-29-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dhjenkins

Good for you. However, that's your experience - and I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people on here are not mechanics.

I've only worked on cars for 15 years, so I guess you've got me beat, and the only "strawmen" I know of got tossed out at halloween.

Of course, I've been burned, cut, scraped and pretty well banged up in those 15 years. You must be some sort of miracle man if you've never had a mishap - especially with your attitude on safety.

I'm glad you're not intimidated - after 40 years without a scratch, you shouldn't be; but do you really think it's a good idea to treat everyone else on here like they also have 40+ years experience, when most of them have probably done little else than fill their gas tank or check their oil?

Have I cranked over a starter by touching the contacts with my screwdriver? Yes. Would I recommend that practice to someone who's never even seen their starter before? No.

You have faith in your abilities and equipment - that's super. Most people here have neither, and yet you'd still try to instill the same faith in them.

Safety comes first. Always.

Your posting of the poor soul that got crushed is a classic strawman, and Halloween was a month ago.
I'm not suggesting anyone make unsafe choices. The FSM states the key should be in the 0 position. It also states the airbag circuit does not need a wait.
Given your paranoia, I can't believe you actually sit behind an airbag as you drive down the road. It could spontaneously initiate.

dhjenkins · #2 11-29-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

I'm not suggesting anyone make unsafe choices. The FSM states the key should be in the 0 position. It also states the airbag circuit does not need a wait.
Given your paranoia, I can't believe you actually sit behind an airbag as you drive down the road. It could spontaneously initiate.

Sure you are. You're making the assumption for other people that their depletion circuitry still works, and telling them there's no need to wait.

I drive a euro - no bag.

Anything else I drive (airbag equipped) says "wait 20 minutes before working on ABS system" in it's FSM's...

As far as this "strawman" (I had to look it up - wasn't familiar with the term in your context) business goes, I have no need to make up stories about people getting killed at work; it happens on a daily basis. It's just as true as you having 40+ years experience in the trade, which I do believe. After all, it is usually the older folks that don't consider safety a high priority.

Chas H · #3 11-29-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dhjenkins

Sure you are. You're making the assumption for other people that their depletion circuitry still works, and telling them there's no need to wait.

Wrong. I have not advised anyone not to wait.

dhjenkins · #4 11-29-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Wrong. I have not advised anyone not to wait.

You sure you're not a lawyer? You've spent the last hour or so arguing for the practice of not waiting - exactly what message do you think that sends?

Chas H · #5 11-29-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dhjenkins

You sure you're not a lawyer? You've spent the last hour or so arguing for the practice of not waiting - exactly what message do you think that sends?

I'm a retired repair shop owner. You can take what you want out of the posts I've made, but I have not advised anyone not to wait.
You seem to think the circuits that control the airbag are going to screw up, and I don't. So far the evidence is on my side.