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Old 05-01-2011, 09:56 PM
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I bought some CRC Mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner the other day while picking up some odds and ends. Can someone point me to a picture of the MAF, or a schematic showing how to correctly access it. I've got a '89 124. Thanks in advance.
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I bought some CRC Mass Air Flow Sensor cleaner the other day while picking up some odds and ends. Can someone point me to a picture of the MAF, or a schematic showing how to correctly access it. I've got a '89 124. Thanks in advance.
Your car does not have a MAF/MAS (or anything close).
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:14 AM
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Your car does not have a MAF/MAS (or anything close).
I thought I was going crazy. All these discussions about MAF's, and low mileage, and I couldn't even find mine.

Well, I guess it's time to adjust lambda again.

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Old 05-02-2011, 08:49 AM
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There are only three possible benefits I can see to installing an aftermarket air filter, like the K&N: it is a permanent, cleanable, filter, vs. the cost of a disposable filter; it provides a performance benefit, either providing cleaner intake air, or more intake air, or both; it makes the owner-installer feel better.
Of these three, the most probable is the last. As for performance: the main restriction in the air intake is the throttle. Until the engine is at wide-open throttle, the air filter makes no significant difference in performance due to restriction.
As for cost, you can do the economic analysis yourself.
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K&N has a good article on their website explaining how they have NEVER seen oil on a MAF sensor. Also, they go on to explain that the air speed thru the filter never really gets high enough to dislodge oil droplets, even from a grossly over-oiled filter. Interesting article; but of course it's THEIR article.

My friend installed one on his '02 320E. after a while the MAF failed. Installed a new MAF - again lasted about 6 months. We tore it down, found fine dust all over the intake tubing, and under a magnifying glass FOUND DRY DUST & TINY SCRATCHES ALL OVER THE THIN-FILM SENSOR ON THE MAF. Didn't find any oil though.
He installed the 3rd MAF, cleaned the intake and bought a new paper filter - no more issues yet, been about 2 years.

I run a cold-air oiled filter on my Vette, cause I want max power and don't drive it under any but the best conditions. I'll never put one in my Mercedes, to gain "maybe" 2 HP and lose the OEM air cleaning capabilities.

As a retired engineer, I appreciate technology and data; but to me, just holding a paper filter and an oiled-gauze filter up to a light an looking through them is enough evidence to convince that the gauze filter could not trap fine dust as well. Try it sometime - kinda scary.

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Old 05-02-2011, 07:28 PM
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All of Mercedes Air Filter Systems .no matter what model vehicle provide 2-3 times the amount of air flow required,AT THE END OF THE FILTER'S LIFE SPAN!!!
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