Any Cerbond users out there? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

dpetryk · #1 04-26-2010, 08:45 AM

I was looking at this product.

http://www.ceramicperformance.com/

Has anyone used it? How well did it perform?

d.delano · #2 04-26-2010, 11:10 AM

LOL it's revolutionary!

higher planes · #3 04-26-2010, 07:38 PM

It sounds interesting. You guys should definitely try it and let me know if it's any good or not

JohnM. · #4 04-26-2010, 08:02 PM

Gilly · #5 04-26-2010, 08:05 PM

It does a great job of sealing and protecting my fine wood furniture.

Kestas · #6 04-27-2010, 11:04 AM

I had a lot to say about a similar product called "CerMet", also a ceramic-based oil additive.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1229173#Post1229173

The claims are so good, I wonder why it isn't used in the OEM market. It would sure help with a lot of issues the engineers are working on... emissions, fuel economy, etc.

Also, this compound claims to seal all the nooks and crannies of the combustion surfaces. I should point out that these nooks and crannies hold the oil that provides the lubrication on the cylinder walls. These nooks and crannies are engineered into these surfaces by design engineers, and reformed during engine rebuild by machinists who hone the surface to break any glaze. A smooth finish as claimed by CerBond is undesirable for cylinder walls.

d.delano · #7 04-27-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestas

A smooth finish as claimed by CerBond is undesirable for cylinder walls.

precisely - this is why absence of appropriate crosshatching on the cylinder wall surfaces means a trip to the machine shop 'cuz the cylinders is just plumb wore out!'

JohnM. · #8 04-27-2010, 02:20 PM

But people don't like things that are rough. Everything's gotta be smooth. Including my cylinder walls!

Kestas · #9 04-27-2010, 02:49 PM

I don't know if John is trolling, but cylinder wall specifications typically include a minimum valley measurement (Rv?) that is measured using metrology methods. This means that the cylinder walls must have a MINIMUM number of valleys with a MINIMUM depth. I've seen these specs. Too smooth and the surface is rejected. The valleys are for oil retention.

JohnM. · #10 04-27-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestas

I don't know if John is trolling, but cylinder wall specifications typically include a minimum valley measurement (Rv?) that is measured using metrology methods. This means that the cylinder walls must have a MINIMUM number of valleys with a MINIMUM depth. I've seen these specs. Too smooth and the surface is rejected. The valleys are for oil retention.

That was sarcastic, yes. No more appropriate place to troll than a snake oil thread I think. I bet if the "average" American could make such decisions on cars they were purchasing; they would go for the smooth cylinder walls, as to microscopic valleys and rough spots, eeew.

500 SL Man · #11 04-27-2010, 08:56 PM

I was told about it about a year or so ago by a friend that has taken care of my 500 SL since 1984... that's when I got it. He told me what it would do and while I found all the benefits he said it had to be "too good to be true" he was right! It did everything he said it would and more. Since that time, I have seen it sold and installed by new car dealers and personally know of 3 NHRA teams that are using it as well as 2 NASCAR teams that are using it!

It may sound "too good" for some of you but for me and those professional race car drivers, it is a great product that does what it represents... and more!

JohnM. · #12 04-27-2010, 09:10 PM

500 SL Man, either you work for Cerbond, or work for Cerbond. First post, registered today, common! Google alerts is great for companies, eh?

The racing team thing is a bunk argument for any snake oil product. Nascar engines are torn down at the end of every race. How does that compare to your personal car that is driven quite a bit more? Wouldn't matter if they were adding rat pee as the special ingredient to lubricate the cylinder walls or Cerbond.

500 SL Man · #13 04-27-2010, 09:10 PM

Many new car dealers are installing CerBond! So are NASCAR & NHRA teams! If you will check your facts, I am sure you will find that CerBond is the real deal. By the way, Cermet is 99% mineral oil! According to the Cermet Mfg. Representative I spoke with, it does not contain anything ceramic. CerBond on the other hand does. Cermet also has to be reapplied from time to time thus it is an additive. CerBond is a true metal treatment!

500 SL Man · #14 04-27-2010, 09:19 PM

Think again my friend... NASCAR teams do not put just anything in their cars. They Dyno everything and then if they find a benefit they put it in test cars on a test track.

By the way, the first place CerBond was used in the NASCAR cars and the NHRA cars was in rear ends and transmissions!

When I first heard about CerBond I decided to give it a try in my 84 500 SL because they offer a 100% money back guarantee and have a 1MM dollar insurance against any damage! With all that, I felt I didn't have anything to lose and since that time, I have become an avid user.

Gilly · #15 04-27-2010, 09:47 PM

The guy is probably Cerbond Racer at this site as well:
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?p=184498