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Fan Clutch M103 W124 300E
Hello,
I have read and read butt I am not clear on how to diagnose faulty fan clutch. Car is 1986 300E about 260k miles. Car gets hot at rest, fine moving -- temp comes down as soon as car is moving above 30mph. I have a 1992 wagon with no cooling problems to compare (different fan and clutch I think.) 1) This morning with both cars cold the 1992 fan was stiff -- no free spin. The 1986 was stiff but had 1/2-2 rotations of free spin. 2) Started cars and both seemed the same. 3) After running 30-60 seconds both had free spin when shut off -- the 1992 free spin longer 4) Same after sitting about 2 minutes -- same as before cars were started. The 1986 was slightly less stiff dead cold -- is this anything that can lead to a conclusion? Further info -- radiator is cracked and will need to be replaced. So I may do clutch at the same time. Thanks thanks.
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I am leaning towards the radiator being the issue, your description of the fan sounds fairly normal.
I have a good radiator from a 90 300E if you are interested. $80 shipped via fed ex ground. If you want the clutch fan and radiator hoses as well, $135 shipped.
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I am VERY interested but want to make sure the parts are correct. What is the MB PN on your radiator? And this is used, correct? Can you tell me how old/how many miles on the parts -- etc.? Thanks!
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David 1986 300E Anthracite + ECodes + MB Mileage Award |
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Do not forget, the '90+ cars received an updated fan blade for the M103s. I wish we could use the 603 Diesel style but the blades are the wrong direction.
![]() Furthermore, M103s appear to 'run hot' compared to other MBs of this vintage due to the 87°C thermostat installed in them. Swap in a 79°C and the fan clutch will not fully engage nearly as often... did this a few years ago in my 300SEL and cannot be happier I did so. Swap in the red aux fan switch on your '86 also.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. ![]() '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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my 86' runs cool... yes the radiator was replaced in 04', and a fan clutch update this past year. I also went with the replacement( M104) fan shroud as it is 2-pieces which can be removed without pulling the clutch. Makes life easier.
Runs cool with the 87F t-stat. M |
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Also depends on your climate. 87°C is irritating in the southern US.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. ![]() '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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