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Old 02-25-2011, 11:26 AM
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Aux pump is there strictly to maintain flow in the core while at idle.
Euro cars may or may not have the aux pump, it's not std in the home country.

Many fail and owner's do not even realize that they are not functioning.

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Aux pump is there strictly to maintain flow in the core while at idle.
Euro cars may or may not have the aux pump, it's not std in the home country.

Many fail and owner's do not even realize that they are not functioning.

Jim
Could this be another reason for owners seeing higher engine temps in some of these cars?

Also, if the coolant has a shorter path it is not cooling down as much as it should before it heads to the block to warm up again (more)....the longer system with the hoses and heater core would allow the coolant to cool down more and have a lower temp reading than the shortened system.

Or is it possible that I am over thinking the issue?
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:44 AM
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Aux pump is there strictly to maintain flow in the core while at idle.
Euro cars may or may not have the aux pump, it's not std in the home country.

Many fail and owner's do not even realize that they are not functioning.

Jim
Standard on both my estates, UK models, but I doubt the home market is different. I repaired a failed one on the '93 and got a definite improvement in cooling, and reduced warm up time

ymmv

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Had to bypass the heater on my 89 300e for a week due to a leaking matrix, ran fine with no difference in operating temp. It was a very involved job to change it though
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Had to bypass the heater on my 89 300e for a week due to a leaking matrix, ran fine with no difference in operating temp. It was a very involved job to change it though
Do you have the repair documented on here?
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:29 AM
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Do you have the repair documented on here?
Afraid not, I did this job before becoming a member on this forum. It was a bit of headache to change, I had to remove the steering wheel, instument cluster, center heater vents, dashboard speakers, the a-pillar trims, lower dashboard panels, light control rotary switch, the wood trim covering the heater controls and hazard light switch areas. You can then unbolt the dashboard itself from the car.

Once you get that lot out of the way, you can now unclip the top section of the heater unit to reveal the core itself. Next undo the 3 alloy pipes running into the core, these are held in by 2 8mm bolts each (6 in total) and are jubile cliped at the other end. You can now pull the core upwards and finaly remove it from the car.

This was done on a uk right hand drive car, but I would think it would be the same as a lhd. By the time I had put it all back together and removed all the air from the system, it had taken an entire day to do the job.
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Ouch!!!! I knew it was involved but when you start breaking it down it sounds like even more of a pain.
Also, aren't there some modules that should be replaced while doing the job because if one go's bad you have to do the same amount of work as a core replacement?
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Ouch!!!! I knew it was involved but when you start breaking it down it sounds like even more of a pain.
Also, aren't there some modules that should be replaced while doing the job because if one go's bad you have to do the same amount of work as a core replacement?

Don't forget the evaporator core.
Replace all the vacuum door actuators.
Some actuators can be accessed without box removal, but not all.



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Old 02-27-2011, 11:38 AM
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Standard on both my estates, UK models, but I doubt the home market is different. I repaired a failed one on the '93 and got a definite improvement in cooling, and reduced warm up time

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It is (was). Years ago, had a 86 300D non turbo grey mkt car without it.

Pump failure does not affect temp, coolant will push thru the pump.
Pump's purpose is only to promote circulation at idle, otherwise, it's not required. Disconnection or elimination of the pump does not make a noticeable difference. Very, very over-engineered.

Pumps main purpose as they age, is to blow the auto temp control box, requiring a higher current draw than when new.

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