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Air Flow Sensor Potentiometer Question
Hi guys- just a few questions - M103 engine -
Should an air flow sensor test be performed on a cold or warm engine? For starters, I performed this test on a cold engine, and I got the following results: when I measure resistance between pins 1 and 2, I show a reading of 1.02 ohm. Do I have a bad potentiometer? Or is this reading due to testing on a cold engine? I've been told that the reading should be closer to 3.6 to 4.4. But again, I don't know if this is on a warm or cold engine or if it makes no difference at all. Thanks! |
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Temp shouldn't matter for the resistance of the potentiometer, however I feel that your test values are wrong.
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Did you disconnect the cable that goes away to the ECU?
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Yes, I disconnected the cable.
On a side note- if I manually press down on the air flow sensor plate, the value on my multimeter rises (drops when I release), so at least I know that part of the potentiometer is working. But as far as the reading of 1.02, does that indicate a bad potentiometer? |
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Try this test procedure
Potentiometer adjustment; 3200 to 4800 ohms of resistance between terminals 2 and 3 when the airflow sensor is at rest. 560 to 1060 ohms of resistance from terminals 1 and 2. The reading should increase to 3760 to 5640 ohms when the plate is at its lowest point.Adjust until this is achieved. |
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Goodness, now I'm really confused. What's the difference between our tests? I pulled mine right from the manual. On pins 1 and 2, I should get a reading of 3.4k - 4.4K Ohm.
Just to reiterate, when I performed the test I got 1.02K Ohm. So the test pretty much failed. |
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What's the range?
Readings between pins with flapper up and reading with flapper pushed all the way down. |
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I guess it's possible to calibrate these potentiometers. I'm basing that on Ivanerrol's comment about making adjustments. Work has stalled until I can get the special required to loosen the bolts on the pot. |
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I've just received a brand new Potentiometer.
I'll put in on later on today and give you some readings. Hmmmmm....readings seem to contradict instructions I was given and posted Last edited by Ivanerrol; 04-29-2011 at 06:27 AM. |
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Heres some readings
1-2 2-3 1-3 |
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here's an old pot next to a new one - notice the wear marks and "flat" spots on the older one
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Ivanerrol, don't want to complicate the discussion, but I'm not seeing the tests for the results you're showing in the FSM. Test step 9.0 @ page 07.3.1122-121/115 indicates neg (-) probe on pin 1 pos (+) probe on pin 3 should read in the range 3.6kOhms - 4.4 kOhms (KOEO). I don't find any tests for (-) on pin 3 (+) on pin 1 or (-) on pin 3 (+) on pin 2. What do those tests indicate?
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Tests between pins 1 and 3 on the example above reads 4350 ohms
within spec of what you have posted i.e. 3.6 - 4.4Kohms. This is a static resistance test with an ohm meter on the unit with no voltage applied - so polarity is irrespective (last image in the post above) |
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Oh yes, I see. Electricity is not my strong suit--business administration guy. Thanks for the explanation.
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Higher planes, I think some of the confusion is in how the numbers are given. For instance 4.20K is the same as 4200. K means multiply by 1000. Does that help?
Paul
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