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Old 02-19-2002, 12:10 PM
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It is unusual for the oil pump to go. I would try to verify that it really is a pressure problem. These cars have an electrical transducer to convert oil pressure to a proportional voltage output. You can replace the transducer. Mine cost $57 (part only). If you are mechanically inclined and can get ahold of a mechanical oil pressure gauge, then put a fitting where the transducer is and verify the pressure with the mechanical gauge. Otherwise have a shop verify it.

Meanwhile, while driving the car, don't let the pressure get below .5 to .7 bar. I kept one foot on the brake and one on the throttle and always added enough gas to keep the oil pressure up. I drove like this for about 6 months before the timing chain broke and I was forced to take everything apart. (the two were not related, the chain had 218k miles on it)

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Old 01-05-2004, 01:21 AM
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low oil pressure

Just curious. What was the outcome of your low oil pressure problem? I am having similar concerns. thanks Bill
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Old 01-05-2004, 12:31 PM
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GROUP 18 - ENGINE M119 - w140

Is there a ticking noise from the valve area and/or low oil pressure, the cause could be a missing plug in the oil feed tube (part no. 119 180 02 66) between the camshafts. If one of these plugs is missing, the oil pressure to the valve elements / chain tensioner will drop causing this complaint.

The complaint can be repaired by exchanging the leaking oil pipe and checking if all other plugs are tight. The loose plug can usually be found in the valve area or in the oil pan, and should be removed.

After the repair, start the engine and check the oil pressure. The oil pressure must be within specifications (< approx. 6 Bar). Oil pressure which is too high can be the result of a faulty oil pressure relief valve (See Diagnostic Directory 18-121) which in turn can cause these plugs to be pushed out.
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Old 01-05-2004, 12:56 PM
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I use Mobil 1 0W-40 in my 300TE.
Wal-Mart and AutoZone carry it in this area. $4.77 a quart at WalMart, a few cents more at AutoZone.
My oil pressure has been dropping to 0 (right to the peg) since switching to synthetic.
This bottom end stuff is scary ... right now I'm fixing up my SD.
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Old 01-05-2004, 04:41 PM
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Before you do any major thing or even speculate major problems, do, as I should of done.

I replaced the oil tubes, about an $1800 job at the dealer only to find out that what I needed was an $80 oil pressure sender. It took me under 10 minutes to replace the old one. Mine attaches to the bottom of the oil filter housing.

If you are not experiencing any loss of power, I would start there.

The dealer recommended the Oil tube Job, not anyone on this site. People on this site actualy recommended the pressure sender. But I was too foolish to listen. I thought the dealer knows what they were doing, and they did, which was screwing me over. But I did the Oil tube stuff my self, so it ran me about 1/4 of that in parts.

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Old 01-05-2004, 10:54 PM
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Power is good; although I do get a bit of lumpiness or rough idle sometimes.
I hear something going "tick tick tick" when I start it cold, but it goes away in about a second or so.
I want my oil pressure guage to read right, so I will very likely have my mechanic replace the sender.
He drove my car and didn't seem too concerned about it, but seeing zero oil pressure is not what I want to see.
Too bad I just had the oil changed ... I was running 15W50 M1 which didn't drop to zero quite as fast.
I assume the oil has to be drained in order to change the sender?
I have to rev the engine up to about 1500 rpm at idle to get the needle to budge from the peg.
I assume/hope that I don't really have "zero" oil pressure, or else I would have fried the engine months ago.
However, I don't want my car to be like one of those engines in the synthetic oil commercial where they drain the oil and run it for hours and it still runs... was that Castol Syntec?
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:08 AM
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I am not eh expert to say, but I believe the tick, tick is normal for initial starts since the oil is on the bottom or the pan. The oil did not have to be drained on mine, so I doubt it will need to be drained on yours, you can change the filter with out draining the oils since the filter housing sits higher than the pan and not on the bottom of it like most cars. The fact that you did not fried the engine or lost power tells you that your pressure is actually/probably good it is the sender or the gage. So in other words the delivery of what is actually the pressure is what you seem to have at fault here. I am not sure about that commercial and I am not daring enough to try that with my baby. I run synthetic in mine.
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Old 02-26-2004, 03:37 PM
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Zero oil pressure after new pump

Dear All,
I have similar problem like Pilot 2000
My 91-300E ( 156Km) measures 3 bar at starting up with idel at 1500rpm

As soon as it warms up to 80deg C. The oil pressure fluctuates with the rpm. It drops to zero when it idles ( 700 rpm). It jumps quickly to 3 bars on acceleration above 1200 rpm.

The Zero Oil pressure is measured with a mechanical gauge outside the engine block.

The car had been like that for the last two years.

two days ago, my mechanics installed a new oil pump and a new timing belt tensioner. but the problem is the same

The oil is changed regularly ( 3km) at the dealership
My mechanics gave up and is recommending buying a used engine or open the engine to check.

Any helpful ideas Please


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