CLA250, CLA45 AMG, Impressions. Thoughts. - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

dennish · #1 09-30-2013, 10:23 AM

Has anyone had a chance to check one out and drive one? Impressions. Thoughts.

pawoSD · #2 09-30-2013, 10:29 AM

I bet they are fun to drive, but the base model is front wheel drive. I would not consider one unless it was an AWD version.

jake12tech · #3 09-30-2013, 01:34 PM

I think the new grille is just hideous.. I miss the hood star. Interior is nice.. I can imagine it's underpowered because it's a 2.0 tho.

MTI · #4 09-30-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

I bet they are fun to drive, but the base model is front wheel drive. I would not consider one unless it was an AWD version.

Have you driven one, or is the bias based on older cars with FWD?

pawoSD · #5 09-30-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Have you driven one, or is the bias based on older cars with FWD?

Its a bias based on my TDI, which has much less HP but similar torque to the CLA, and if you put all the torque to work it easily loses traction/effective steering through 1st, 2nd, and into 3rd gear. Its terrible, and that is WITH and electronic locking diff! Also, its brand new and does have a fully independent suspension + 16" decently wide wheels. Driven normally its fine, but you can't have much fun with it.

Also the CLA is not underpowered. That turbo 2.0 engine makes a ton of power, similar HP numbers to a M112 V6 in base form....the AMG is way higher.

DieselPaul · #6 09-30-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jake12tech

I think the new grille is just hideous.. I miss the hood star. Interior is nice.. I can imagine it's underpowered because it's a 2.0 tho.

They make 258lb/ft from 1200-4000rpms.

I thought the C250 has the same motor but I guess not, the CLA is a 2.0 and the C is a 1.8, the C is closer to 220lb/ft and with the powerband on that car I found the C250 plenty powerful for what it was.

FWD is sort of a bummer, but as MTI said differential technology, suspension technology, etc have all come a long way, it won't drive like a 96 Civic. Also its a entry level, fuel efficient car, 99.9% of people who own FWD cars couldn't tell you what torque steer is.

JamesDean · #7 09-30-2013, 03:45 PM

Test Drive: 'Bargain' Mercedes CLA disappoints

CLA 250 has 2-liter turbocharged four-cylinder rated 208 hp at 5,500 rpm, 258 lbs.-ft. of torque at 1,250 rpm.

CLA 45 AMG has 2-liter turbo four rated 335 hp at 6,000, 332 lbs.-ft. at 2,250.

Doesn't seem too underpowered to me.

dennish · #8 09-30-2013, 04:04 PM

I just found this: Test Drive: 'Bargain' Mercedes CLA disappoints
I would like opinions from Mercedes lovers who actually checked one out and drove it.

MTI · #9 09-30-2013, 04:05 PM

Being a W201 enthusiasts, I find the "old school" criticisms and comments similar to what was expressed back in 1983, until they were able to experience the new car, learn about the new (then) technology surrounding a 5 link suspension and high strength, low weight steel.

The CLA is not the only car in the line, but represents an interesting spot in the product spectrum. I think it will capture quite a few "empty nesters" or professional couples without kids (rear seat room) just like the W201 did thirty years ago.

BTW, that USA Today review is deeply in the minority with regard to the opinion about ride (they say harsh) and luxe appointments (it's a $32K Mercedes, not an E or S).

tbomachines · #10 09-30-2013, 04:24 PM

No thanks. Proportions seem off (obviously they're trying to make it seem bigger than it is) and the dash is fugly. Also no to fwd...coming from one of the best fwd platforms in the world (with similar power specs) I can pretty definitively say it still sucks in many ways that have yet to be overcome (like the laws of physics). The awd might be interesting but not for 55-60k.

tbomachines · #11 09-30-2013, 04:25 PM

That said, to get those numbers reliably out of a 2.0 is impressive. Aftermarket tuners have been doing that for years but obviously those aren't backed by new car warranties.

Skippy · #12 09-30-2013, 05:17 PM

Hitler says no:

Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA - YouTube

(made by a member here)

MTI · #13 09-30-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

No thanks. Proportions seem off (obviously they're trying to make it seem bigger than it is) and the dash is fugly. Also no to fwd...coming from one of the best fwd platforms in the world (with similar power specs) I can pretty definitively say it still sucks in many ways that have yet to be overcome (like the laws of physics). The awd might be interesting but not for 55-60k.

Spoken like a true enthusiast that has wrung the beejezzus from a CLA on the street and track . . . wait, what? . . .

dennish · #14 09-30-2013, 05:28 PM

that's a funny video

tbomachines · #15 09-30-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Spoken like a true enthusiast that has wrung the beejezzus from a CLA on the street and track . . . wait, what? . . .

I would be incredibly surprised if the CLA can overcome the laws of physics. I really do get the "fwd is different these days" argument after driving an older overpowerd fwd car for years--but it's still nowhere close to rwd in any performance situation. And I'm not talking about a track, i mean stabbing the throttle in the rain, accelerating on an onramp, etc. Of course on a track it is also apparent. For many people, the point-and-shoot method of fwd In low traction situations works. I do not prefer it.

Maybe the CLA is made of magic, I dunno. I'm jus going off of my similarly powered, modern comparison that I DD'd for two years before trading it for high performance rwd...