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thayer 01-19-2014 10:22 AM

getting a new tranny 1995 e320
 
ok, so I'm going to take my 95 e320 over to "Creeds Transmission". I'm going to give him $2000 to completely rebuild the transmission.

I put a used transmission in it and it lost reverse in 5 starts.

I could do it again as there is a wrecked 95 e320 in welcome, nc for $1000.

I just don't think I can emotionally handle another gazzillion hours (less obviously after what amounted to 3 removals and installs of the 722.369).

Creed rebuilt the tranny in my 04 odyssey at 250k miles and its awesome.

I know I could buy another working e320 for what I'm paying to rebuild this tranny. But I already did the evaporator and the SLS on this wagon and I know it from soup to nuts.

Just wanted to run this by everyone. Not wearing a flame suit so I may start crying like a little girl.

http://troll.me/images/dawson-crying/dawson-crying.jpeg

Hirnbeiss 01-19-2014 12:59 PM

I know the GOB way is to keep throwing used trannies in, but I think the rebuild option is a safer bet if he is good, uses good quality parts, and guarantees his work, especially if you want to keep the car awhile. I can't speak to the price, though.

RunningTooHot 01-19-2014 01:53 PM

Just a point of reference...

Sun Valley (a very reputable MBZ trans re-builder) currently lists the 722.369 at $1,750 exchange, including a torque converter & two year warranty.

Of course, shipping costs are an unknown, but I believe that they will warranty any needed repairs throughout the country. That could be a big factor if you take very long trips in the wagon - far from where your guy is at.

Chris W. 01-19-2014 02:11 PM

I totally identify with your pain and your plan. I would do the same for a car which I know inside out and which I plan to keep. Great choice of photo!

Rgds,
Chris W.
'95 E300D, 411K

MAVA 01-19-2014 03:28 PM

Yes, sun valley is the best if you are removing the tranny your self, but all the work is in removing and installing a transmission. Fixing the tranny(one of these .3 ) is the easy step. Fixing reverse is a weekend job...This transmission is well documented on the web on how to fix. I guess by your email you are hurting(alot) to pay the 2k

Experiment on your old one. The reverse is fixed this way. It is the small rubber lip seal

722.5 transmission oil pump rebuid DIY - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Experiment on your old transmission.

Martin

thayer 01-19-2014 05:09 PM

I experimented on the first tranny only to find that the front pump had eaten itself. Bits of springs were everywhere. I'm sure the one in the wagon now is fine, just needs a reseal as you say. But there is a chance it needs more. If it needs more then I will wish I'd just had it rebuilt.

Once the rebuild is complete, I can start fresh, I'm excited.

It's really just re-buying my wagon. The best part being that I know what I've got:)

Skid Row Joe 01-19-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thayer (Post 3273682)
ok, so I'm going to take my 95 e320 over to "Creeds Transmission". I'm going to give him $2000 to completely rebuild the transmission.

I put a used transmission in it and it lost reverse in 5 starts.

I could do it again as there is a wrecked 95 e320 in welcome, nc for $1000.

I just don't think I can emotionally handle another gazzillion hours (less obviously cuz I'm practically an expert at removal and installation of the 722.369).

Creed rebuilt the tranny in my 04 odyssey at 250k miles and its awesome.

I know I could buy another working e320 for what I'm paying to rebuild this tranny. But I already did the evaporator and the SLS on this wagon and I know it from soup to nuts.

Just wanted to run this by everyone. Not wearing a flame suit so I may start crying like a little girl.

Creed is now a known and local entity to you. I would say your decision making on this was sound advice to yourself. The buying of used components is Russian Roulette, and totally price (bargain) driven....

Ferdman 01-20-2014 07:16 AM

Thayer, your approach to resolving the transmission problems makes sense considering the time and effort you have expended already. Hopefully that's the last major repair for a while. I spent $4,000 in July 2012 for an evaporator replacement in our 1995 E320 sedan. I appreciate the ride, handling and build quality of the 124 cars too so I understand why you're willing to invest money in a 1995 E-Class wagon.

thayer 01-20-2014 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferdman (Post 3274097)
I appreciate the ride, handling and build quality of the 124 cars too so I understand why you're willing to invest money in a 1995 E-Class wagon.

oh yeah...its a straight 6 with rear wheel drive. Can you even buy that new?
Its certainly the best riding and handling vehicle I've got.

It sat for 3 months without being touched...I got in it..and it started with no issues. I miss her....shes comin' home.

suginami 01-20-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thayer (Post 3274111)
oh yeah...its a straight 6 with rear wheel drive. Can you even buy that new?
Its certainly the best riding and handling vehicle I've got.

I hear you.

I love the power of the V8 in my E430, but I sometimes wish I would've kept my old W124 E320.

The quality level is higher in the 124's over the 210's. Heck, even my wife can tell the difference, which is a miracle.

I still find myself wasting too much company time on the internet looking at W124 500E's for sale...:eek:

liquiddog 01-20-2014 01:46 PM

I'm going to bite the bullet on my w201 and go with sun valley. IMHO, the prices on the scrapyard trannies is way too high for what you get. $800 shipped should be a sure thing, but it's a 50/50 bet at best considering the age of these cars. For $2000 shipped, you get a sure thing, and don't have to keep paying shipping both ways and arguing with scrap yards who may or may not accept a return. I'm unimpressed with scrapyard prices in general, but that's a different topic. ;)

Zulfiqar 01-20-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suginami (Post 3274216)
I hear you.

I love the power of the V8 in my E430, but I sometimes wish I would've kept my old W124 E320.

The quality level is higher in the 124's over the 210's. Heck, even my wife can tell the difference, which is a miracle.

I still find myself wasting too much company time on the internet looking at W124 500E's for sale...:eek:

yes true, after I redid my W124 to ride like a W124 should - my wife usually sneaks away with it and leaves her "NEW" car at home. This is not fair.

her new car is a Nissan Altima which she bought because it was so cute looking.

suginami 01-20-2014 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquiddog (Post 3274227)
I'm going to bite the bullet on my w201 and go with sun valley. IMHO, the prices on the scrapyard trannies is way too high for what you get. $800 shipped should be a sure thing, but it's a 50/50 bet at best considering the age of these cars. For $2000 shipped, you get a sure thing, and don't have to keep paying shipping both ways and arguing with scrap yards who may or may not accept a return. I'm unimpressed with scrapyard prices in general, but that's a different topic. ;)

Sun Valley rebuilt the transmission in my old E320, and it was flawless, with a one year, 12,000 mile warranty, IIRC.

ps2cho 01-20-2014 05:17 PM

I have 30k on my rebuilt from Sun Valley I got 2 years ago almost to the day now....
I did the first fluid change on it a few months ago at 25k...and well...it speaks for itself:

http://www.w124-zone.com/downloads/p...40k/trans1.jpg

thayer 01-20-2014 06:28 PM

that is the most beautiful tranny pan I've ever seen. Lets all take a moment and look at that pan.

http://jayroeder.com/wp-content/uplo...eshSoClean.jpg


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