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Old 03-04-2014, 11:42 AM
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Sudden death and not restarting points to OVP.
ovp only controls the "E" in the cis-e system. It would cause rough idle, stalling, but would always restart.

Op, check fuel pressure when the car stalls, then check for spark.

The only things that can cause the stalling when warm with no restart until cold again are:

1. Fuel pump, or fuel pump relay
2. Crank position sensor. Should ohm ok at 1200ohms.
3. Ignition system failure including Distributer cap, rotor, and possibly wires.

Thats it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:00 PM
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ovp only controls the "E" in the cis-e system. It would cause rough idle, stalling, but would always restart.

Op, check fuel pressure when the car stalls, then check for spark.

The only things that can cause the stalling when warm with no restart until cold again are:

1. Fuel pump, or fuel pump relay
2. Crank position sensor. Should ohm ok at 1200ohms.
3. Ignition system failure including Distributer cap, rotor, and possibly wires.

Thats it.
Coincidentally I am running into a similar problem on my 420SEL. Just happened all of a sudden. arg. I was on my way to work today. I pulled off the turnpike and noticed the engine rmps drop below 500. I pulled it down a gear, and kept them up for a bit. Then I hit the EZ pass line and had to stop. She stalled and didnt restart. I pulled all the relays, put them back. No difference. I tried to jumper the fuel pumps ON but it was hard to hear if they were on. I wasn't sure which 87 pin was the pumps. I tried all of them I think. One of them gave me a click somewhere in the engine. Maybe something to CIS. Anyway, towed it back home and sure enough it started up at the garage. Oy.

Best I can tell the pumps and accumulator are original at 225K.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:48 PM
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I received a new fuel pump relay for my 1992 190E 2.6 and go to install it. CAN'T LOCATE IT. It's not near the OVP and MAS. Did a search and read that it(FPR) is integrated into the MAS. Is this correct?. No FPR on the '92's

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Old 03-06-2014, 03:29 PM
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I received a new fuel pump relay for my 1992 190E 2.6 and go to install it. CAN'T LOCATE IT. It's not near the OVP and MAS. Did a search and read it must be integrated into the MAS. Is this correct?. No FPR on the '92's
Correct. Fuel pump operations were integrated into the MAS unit..Around 1990 I believe.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:28 PM
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UPDATE: My problem was due to worn distributor cap and rotor. I bought a used MAS and tried that first but car didn't start. New cap and rotor and it started up. Problem solved.
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Old 03-13-2014, 07:15 AM
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dennish, glad to hear you resolved the problem.
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