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190 Evolution 1 Stalling solved!
Just thought I'd report back here considering it was this site where I got the information from. My Evo was dying turning into corners, or stopping at lights, anytime basically I'd decellerate to a stop. Much worse with clutch in. After cleaning out the idle valve, airflow meter body, finding a couple of broken wires to the air temp sensors, finding a distributor cap cracked in half it would hold a good idle not moving, and would restart first go. Only when moving would the car die, dropping to 450 ish then just dying. Most unnerving entering a roudabout or a tight corner to lose all power steering assistance. Anyway to cut a long story short, thanks to Steve Brothertons post on the OVP relay causing high resistance and a consequent voltage drop to the idle regulator I pullled the OVP tonight and lo and behold the problem has disappeared. I also saw 0 milliamps at the EHA. Removed the car feels great and no way does it stall no matter the abuse I give it. So hopefully once I get a new OVP everything will be a-ok. Thanks!
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where is the ovp relay? i looked for the relay configuration on my 190e and couldn't find it. thanks, moneypit
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On W124's, it is behind the battery.
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can you describe it for me? any identifing marksS
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Well mine is silver and is next to the ECU. It has a red top. There is a clear plastic cap over the red top which in my case contains two fuses. In front and to the left is a shorter black relay. This is the fuel pump relay. Both of these items don't look like a normal relay because they are so big.
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Forgot to add, make sure you have warmed up the car before you remove the ovp (key out). The ovp controls the cold start valve you see. With no OVP I can't start my car from cold but I may have a really weak mixture - not sure. So don't drive around without the OVP it's there to do a job, just pull it to see if your problem goes away then get a new one.
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I haven't looked at the cold-start valve circuit in awhile, but my impression is it does not rely on the ECU. It has a mechanical thermal valve that shuts off the valve when the engine heats up, and an electric heater coil that is turned on with the ignition - to speed up the process. Am I wrong?
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I just want to clarify something nine months later..
My problem was not due to the fabled OVP relay. Rather I had an intermittant harness from the idle speed regulator to the connector block on the 4th intake runner. It took quite a while to find this as the problem would come and go, sometimes it went away for a couple of months at a time then I'd get a spate of cutouts, normally when the car was fully warmed up. I replaced the harness and the problem disappeared completely. I tested it by idling the car and wiggling the harness - bingo! I could never see open circuit with the multimeter which is weird. Along the way I managed to replace the AFM due to a faulty potentiometer, that fixed a few flat spots etc. Anyway thought I'd update this thread "for the archives".. |
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