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Old 08-16-2003, 10:28 PM
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Brake bleeder recommendation

I am looking for a brake bleeder system that I can use on MB, and pretty much any other car.

Any ideas? Im willing to spend a couple hundred dollars.

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Old 08-16-2003, 11:57 PM
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I have used the Motive Power Bleeder on all my cars and it works great...especially for $50
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:01 AM
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I have heard of many good things about that model, but I am looking for something more heavy duty.
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1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:02 AM
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Check Google http://www.google.ca/search?q=brake+bleeder&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=fr&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta=
I made one out of parts I already had http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=72244
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Old 08-17-2003, 12:10 AM
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The phoenix injector system was what I was thinking about getting.
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1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 08-17-2003, 01:02 AM
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you can get one from performance products for about 50$ should do the job quite well.
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Old 08-17-2003, 01:17 AM
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I have used the Motive Power Bleeder on all my cars and it works great...especially for $50
Yeah I think you (afmcorp) are refering to this one above.

I am looking for something I would use a few times a month.
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1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 08-19-2003, 02:34 AM
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As far as durability goes I have used my bleeder on more than ten cars so far and shows no wear. Five of those uses was just within that past week. A few times a month for bleeding brakes...I assume you are a shop in which case I can see the need for something more robust.
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Old 08-19-2003, 11:07 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Brake-Bleeder-Universal-Adapters/dp/B000RT8GUK

this is the one i saw
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Old 08-19-2003, 02:08 PM
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I have the Motive Products Power Bleeder. It is really good for flushing brake fluid and for bleeding brakes after work has been done at one of the wheels (replacing brake lines, for example). It does not seem to be very good at bleeding entire systems. I replaced the master cylinder and most of the steel brake lines on an old pickup that I have, so I had air throughout the whole system. I have tried several times to bleed the system with the Motive bleeder, but the brakes are still soft. The bleeder doesn't seem to push the fluid through with enough velocity to carry the air past the high points in the system.

The other problem I had with the bleeder is that the tubing doesn't seem to resist brake fluid very well. I had the thing hooked up to the car with the pressure pumped up when the line blew out, sending brake fluid everywhere in a nice fine mist. I was thinking of replacing the clear vinyl tubing that came with the bleeder with rubber fuel line hose.

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Old 08-20-2003, 04:26 PM
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I use a Vacula. Not cheap, but really good stuff.
Pulls instead of pushes, so fewer adaptor issues if you service many different cars.
I have an older model (15+ years), but it is still going strong.

http://www.google.com/search?q=vacula+brake+bleeder&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=863

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Old 09-02-2003, 12:51 PM
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Thumbs up Motive Power Bleeder

I bought the Motive Bleeder and used it to bleed and flush the system after a rear brake job. Worked as advertised....I just followed the directions on the canister. The brakes are working fine. Finally, got her out on the highway last night at 11:00PM when I finally wrapped up with a new parking brake shoes/springs, RR caliper replacement, new RR BALO rotors with Textar pads, and this brake fluid flush. AND this is the first time I have ever flushed a brake system myself...piece of cake with the Motive bleeder...I will have to keep an eye on those hoses that come with it...based on some of the feedback earlier in this thread.

Ah! The satisfaction of a DIY brake job.....She ran (and braked!) like a champ.

Thanks again to Csnow for his advice on root causing that sticky parking brake gizmo that took some engine oil and a tiny dab of brake grease to finally work right...
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Old 09-02-2003, 09:51 PM
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The consensus among professionals seems to be that "pushing" the brake fluid is more efficient that "pulling". I'm no engineer, but it sure makes sense to me. I tried a Mighty-Vac vacuum bleeder that was utterly useless. I now have a Motive pressure bleeder -- but I haven't used it yet.

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Old 09-03-2003, 10:04 AM
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Mighty-Vac not so mighty.
Vacula really sucks.
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Old 09-03-2003, 02:29 PM
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Perhaps a recommendation would be helpful instead of nonconstructive criticism.

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1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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