HELP! Oil all over engine compartment! - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

d2bernhard · #16 02-27-2004, 01:28 PM

RJK, did you get this replaced yet? I am now in your same boat. No part no where no how. I have found a local hydraulic line shop here in Seattle, as referred by the MB dealer, who can make a new one or repair the old one -- they'll decide once they have the part in hand. My car is at the dealer next week and they will give me an estimate.

List for this was $181. My service writer said the locally made one should be less, maybe around $100. 1-2 hours labor. My wife may be enlisted to ferry the part to and fro to save time the car sits in the shop.

hookedon210s · #17 02-27-2004, 04:40 PM

Has Mercedes reached the point of not having parts in stock for 15 year old cars? I always thought that a major advantage of owning MB's was that parts would always be readily available (whatever the cost). When my SLS high pressure hydraulic hose failed in 1996 on my 1983 300TD (returning from vacation and occurring in, of all places, Virginia) we limped home with a 5 gallon container of cheap hydraulic fluid. Once home in Florida, I was able to obtain in one day the high pressure hydraulic hose through the MB spare parts system. Don't remember the price but it wasn't too bad. As I recall, the cause was the hose chafing on the fan belt pulley. We always had the MB part supply situation pretty good in Jacksonville since one of MB's regional depots was here. Since has been moved to Orlando I think. Maybe MB doesn't think that their cars will last 15 years anymore so they don't need to have the parts available.

d2bernhard · #18 02-27-2004, 05:38 PM

Two dealers said this was confined to hydraulic lines. One dealer found they could not get one for a '79 6.9 recently either.

rjk · #19 02-27-2004, 08:01 PM

No, no part yet, if everything is going to plan (HAH!), it is in transit from Germany to the States. Should get here inside of a week, then it gets overnighted to me. Cost is around $178 I think. Apparently, the connection at the pump end is the sticking point as far as rebuilding it goes. The bracket and bends disallow use of the machine.
Anyway, I got disgusted over the weekend and looked closely at the old hose, the hose itself is a GATES hose which makes me think it was rebuilt at one time, unless the MB supplier over in Germany uses GATES hoses. The hose was bad only where it passed the exhaust manifold (cracked & bleeding due to the heat), so I had a brainstorm. Why not cut the bad off and run a brake line to replace the missing hose? Should work. So I did the deed and it didn't take too long to reattach the connector the the shortened hose (don't get me started on the inabilities of "machine shop experts" not knowing how to do something by hand if their power tools don't fit). I had the connector off, the hose cut to length, and the connector reattached within 30 minutes, not easy, but certainly doable.
Then it was off to PEP Boys and Advance Auto to look for a brake line. Couldn't find one that fit, I needed to match the fittings and they were 12mmX1.0 thread size. After scrounging around their back rooms, I found an adapter from male 12mm to fem 3/16". Now I could get a 3/16" brake line to hook up. Unfortunately, there was no combination of adapters I could cob up for the other end and I was stuck hard and fast. It was Sunday, so NAPA and the better parts stores were closed. I briefly toyed with the idea of cutting the hyd. line and replacing the male 12mm connector with a 3/16" or 1/4" conn. but thought better of it. I didn't want to do anything I might regret later. However, if the hose doesn't get here soon, I'll hunt down the gates hose and rebuild the %@$#%@#$ thing myself.

So much for teutonic efficiency!

hookedon210s · #20 02-27-2004, 08:55 PM

I think Gates was the original hose supplier. I guess the German and American divisions don't know what the other does.

d2bernhard · #21 03-09-2004, 02:00 PM

My Update:
My dealer felt they could get the hose fabricated locally from a trusted source for a reasonable price -- half of the list of the unavailable part. We did this and the new hose made a funky noise when the car was under power. A surging thrumming droning which could be felt when holding the new hose. They swapped in another customer's old hose -- from a 4Matic -- and the noise was gone. They have worked with MB specification tech reps and found the 4Matic spec hose should fit well (I think hose is just a bit longer), and the part is available. It is en route to the shop now. I will update once complete.

rjk · #22 03-09-2004, 07:15 PM

I'm still waiting but think I will wait some more considering the rebuild problem. Was your hose for the susp. system like mine? or was it for something else? Mine is the line from the pump, under the engine to the pass. side, then back past the exhaust man. to a steel line that goes down & to the rear susp.

d2bernhard · #23 03-10-2004, 05:50 PM

Job is complete. Part is for the same thing, but for the 4Matic. Part number is 124 320 70 53

rjk · #24 03-10-2004, 06:05 PM

Thanks, I'll look into it immediately!

d2bernhard · #25 03-10-2004, 07:05 PM

Forgot to mention, it costs more too, $141 for the vanilla part and $181 to $195 (vin specific) for the 4Matic version. I don't have details how they matched my VIN to get the right version. More $ but it works, and no more driveway stain. Prices are from Caliber Motors in California. My dealer charged more, as they usually do, but my MBClub discount brings them back in line.

rjk · #26 03-26-2004, 06:20 PM

Oh well, I tried the 4matic hose and it is back ordered, too. Germany already reneged on their first promised ship date (23MAR) and now say it won't ship until 6APR. I wonder if that is 2004 or 2005? I think I'll machine the adapter I need to make the brake line idea work. We got this car for my daughter, she loves it and wants to drive it. Too bad it has been down since New Year's waiting for MB to milk the rubber trees so they can make the %!?@&#$ hose.

rjk · #27 04-06-2004, 04:38 PM

Well, MB Germany reneged on shipping out the part on 23MAR, next promised ship date is 6APR. Am I holding my breath? HAH! So I keep trying to find an alternate method of fixing this. The brake line idea won't work since I am short one adapter no one believes exists. As I am relating my tale of woe to a sympathetic counter man he asks if have tried to get the thing rebuilt, duh! I tell him of no one wanting to touch it because it won't "fit" in their "machine". He suggests a guy in the next town who works out of the back of a little hole in the wall shop specializing in custom rods. I figure what they hey and wander over. He worries about the restrictor inserts throughout the hose but 4 hours and $45 later, voile'! Rebuilt hose! No fuss, no muss, no excuses.

Next order of buisiness is to find some copper washers to fit. No deal, so I get some of the correct O.D. and file out the I.D. to fit. It is all back together now and working as designed! (I think, knock on wood). No weird vibrations/noises, maybe because the guy pulled the restrictors out of the old hose and put them in the new one. BUT I DON'T CARE, MY DAUGHTER WILL SPEAK TO ME AGAIN!

Anyone in this position in or around Atlanta, look up Hose Wizards in Loganville, highly recommended!

Oz 300te · #28 04-08-2006, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjk

Well, MB Germany reneged on shipping out the part on 23MAR, next promised ship date is 6APR. Am I holding my breath? HAH! So I keep trying to find an alternate method of fixing this. The brake line idea won't work since I am short one adapter no one believes exists. As I am relating my tale of woe to a sympathetic counter man he asks if have tried to get the thing rebuilt, duh! I tell him of no one wanting to touch it because it won't "fit" in their "machine". He suggests a guy in the next town who works out of the back of a little hole in the wall shop specializing in custom rods. I figure what they hey and wander over. He worries about the restrictor inserts throughout the hose but 4 hours and $45 later, voile'! Rebuilt hose! No fuss, no muss, no excuses.

Next order of buisiness is to find some copper washers to fit. No deal, so I get some of the correct O.D. and file out the I.D. to fit. It is all back together now and working as designed! (I think, knock on wood). No weird vibrations/noises, maybe because the guy pulled the restrictors out of the old hose and put them in the new one. BUT I DON'T CARE, MY DAUGHTER WILL SPEAK TO ME AGAIN!

Anyone in this position in or around Atlanta, look up Hose Wizards in Loganville, highly recommended!

OK I'm bringing this thread back to life as I have this hose leaking oil and it does have "Gates 2TD DN10 329D88/ DBL 6260.00" written on it. I checked at the local merc dealer and the catalogue had a picture of it but no part number.
I was going to try the local hydraulic place to get a replacement hose.

What I would like to know is where are these restrictors that you are talking about and how do I remove them from the hose.
And does anyone have a part number for this hose from MB and have they been able to buy it?
Thanks,
Grant.

d2bernhard · #29 04-08-2006, 01:53 PM

I think you need to talk to Tom Hanson from here. He is a great guy and if it's out there he can find it.

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rjk · #30 04-08-2006, 06:12 PM

I might still have the OEM hose MZB finally sent and insisted I pay for. It is in a box somewhere and I am in the middle of moving but if you want me to look, I'll scrounge around.