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Old 09-07-2009, 08:11 PM
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:25 PM
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Old 09-07-2009, 09:10 PM
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Old 09-07-2009, 10:32 PM
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:38 AM
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:52 PM
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you probably all seen this, watch for 0:35

Yeah I've seen that. Low speed passes are one thing and (Correct me if i'm wrong) Fairly safe because of the ground effect. The main issue is obstacles (Power lines are particularly nasty) In the case of that B 52 crash he simply turned too sharply and at too low a speed lost stability and lift....very little chance of recovery past a certain point........
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:02 PM
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In the case of that B 52 crash he simply turned too sharply and at too low a speed lost stability and lift....very little chance of recovery past a certain point........
BINGO! any wing with an aspect ratio like a B 52 is not stable in low speed/high angle turns and if I remember my terms, it's acceleration stall. At some point, roll angle overcomes lift ability regardless of speed.


My step-grandpa met COL Holland years ago. (IIRC they both died the same year but different causes.) The old man test flew in the '60s but he was not a 'gambler' like COL Holland.
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:11 PM
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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BINGO! any wing with an aspect ratio like a B 52 is not stable in low speed/high angle turns and if I remember my terms, it's acceleration stall. At some point, roll angle overcomes lift ability regardless of speed.


My step-grandpa met COL Holland years ago. (IIRC they both died the same year but different causes.) The old man test flew in the '60s but he was not a 'gambler' like COL Holland.
He got it past 90 degrees of bank and went into a knife edge turn where the rudder is the only aerofoil that generates a vertical component of lift. You can do that in an Extra 300 or a Pitts but not in a B52. The pilots reaction in the video was to pull back on the stick (you can tell from the massive wing flex prior to impact). In a 90 degree bank that translated into 0 increased lift and infinitely higher angle of attack.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:42 PM
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He got it past 90 degrees of bank and went into a knife edge turn where the rudder is the only aerofoil that generates a vertical component of lift. You can do that in an Extra 300 or a Pitts but not in a B52. The pilots reaction in the video was to pull back on the stick (you can tell from the massive wing flex prior to impact). In a 90 degree bank that translated into 0 increased lift and infinitely higher angle of attack.
you guys do realize that the copilot crashed the plane of purpose.

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