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Old 10-18-2004, 03:08 PM
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Biodiesel prices

I am working on a project. The only way to get biod here is to buy it by the barrel and that is 3.50 for 55 gal. 75 miles from here there is a guy selling it for non road use for 2.90. So since there is no biod sold in this area from the pump i would like to know what you folks out there are paying and for what blends or is it straight?

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Old 10-18-2004, 03:19 PM
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No taxes on biodiesel in Texas. Here in Austin, it (ASTM B100) sells for
$3.40/gallon but, you can only buy it on Tuesday betweeen 11:00am
and 4:00pm (no joke).

Here's what will pi*s you off, according to the folks at Austin biofuels,
there's plenty of biodiesel produced in Texas but no distribution
infrastructure so, get this, a large portion of the production is exported
to Europe.

Go figure.
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Old 10-18-2004, 03:44 PM
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I can get B100 here in Santa Barbara for $3.50/gallon. That includes the standard state (18 cents/gal) and federal taxes (24.4 cents/gal), sales tax (7.75%) and among a few other little things a "california oil spill tax" - what a load of crap but at least it isn't more than a couple cents.

It used to be $3.00/gallon last year, and I'd heard of it being $2.50 in some places. Regular petro-diesel is $2.50 or more now here... Biodiesel would be a much more viable option now except of the rising cost of veggie oil .
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Soybean prices are very low right now, so I wonder if veg. oil prices will follow suit.
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I hope so! The biodiesel at my local station is made from pure unused soy oil (they don't trust wvo) so if soy is getting cheaper again that bodes well for me .

And if it helps lower the price of the veggie oil I buy at Costco (which went up about $1 per gallon a few months back) I will be doubly pleased!
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Old 10-18-2004, 05:49 PM
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i should have posted this

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Old 10-18-2004, 06:23 PM
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In the mountains of northwestern Virginia

it's $2.89/gallon at Holtzman Fuel in Mt. Jackson (for quantities less than 150 gallons). They have a 13,000 gallon biodiesel tank. *drool*
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Something about futures...

So I know about zilch when it comes to commodities, but apparently soybean FUTURES are up, whatever that means. That translates to high prices for soy products. Thus, the higher prices of biodiesel.

B20 here (Portland, Oregon) from a bulk cardlock pump for about 10 cents/gal less than retail. So 2.09-2.39 depending on the phase of the moon.
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R Leo
No taxes on biodiesel in Texas. Here in Austin, it (ASTM B100) sells for
$3.40/gallon but, you can only buy it on Tuesday betweeen 11:00am
and 4:00pm (no joke).

Here's what will pi*s you off, according to the folks at Austin biofuels,
there's plenty of biodiesel produced in Texas but no distribution
infrastructure so, get this, a large portion of the production is exported
to Europe.

Go figure.
Dino oil is huge business with loads of moolah which equals lots of "pull". You really don't think they would let us use an alternative fuel do ya?

The big oil companies are holding us hostage

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Old 10-19-2004, 08:30 AM
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So I know about zilch when it comes to commodities, but apparently soybean FUTURES are up, whatever that means. That translates to high prices for soy products. Thus, the higher prices of biodiesel.
Actually soybean prices have been steadily declining since the end of August. This year's harvest has been larger than expected thus far and the midwest has had good weather to get the crop out of the field. Whether or not declining bean prices have any effect on biodiesel prices is debatable, though. Lot of other inputs and middlemen needing to make their dollar.
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Another thing to consider, Blue Sun (a biggie here for BD) has contracted with farmers in Roggen to grow oil-seed for BD starting next year and Rocky Mountain BioDiesel opened a 3m gal/year plant this year, so for all the production, price "should" go down.

I still pay $2.25/gal for WVO home brew (thrice washed, excellent stuff) here. OK, I don't "pay" that, I trade wrench work for it, but that's what it costs me.

Bartkus oil in Boulder sells Blue Sun (West-Central Soy BD) for $3.25/gal for B100.

Reportedly, Rocky Mountain Bio Diesel can sell it for under $2/gal (from local WVO - McDonalds), but they don't sell retail.

I have a 55gal drum of winterized B100 here I could sell for $3/gal if anyone local wants it (have another load coming soon.)
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