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Old 01-05-2005, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by odie

Is this POLYETHELENE stuff no good for heated WVO and diesel?
This stuff comes in many flavors; i.e. temp range, chemical imperviability, pressure range.
You have to make sure you buy the correct stuff for your application.
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Old 01-06-2005, 09:55 AM
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hose melted

the POLYETHELENE hose melted....

the HIH is about 20 feet total lenght. the "return" heater hose has a fuel line as well. I used a "Y" adapter for the fuel supply line and ran parallel HIH fuel supply lines from the tank to the engine. One HIH line starts at the engine and goes back to the tank, & the other HIH line returns the coolant back to the water pump. That way I didn't "waste" the coolant returning to the engine and doubled my fuel heating. Each fuel line should flow 1/2 as fast but absorb twice the heat.

anyway....

I pulled the HIH assembly apart last night...the poly hose as the coolant inlet was total melted. It had gotten so hot that as it melted, the suction from the lift pump collapsed the poly hose and it began to get sucked into the brass hose barb it was attached too. This had the effect of mostly blocking that side of the parallel fuel lines and preventing even more water from getting into the fuel. Thus I was able to drive for about 2 days with the HIH system before the water level in the fuel reached critical levels and shut the engine down.

The return HIH hose obviously is not as hot as the supply one. The poly hose in that one was noticably discolored from the heat, but had not failed...yet. So it was supplying all the fuel after failure and the melted side was trickling in water.

I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow.

It was ugly.

I drained the tank and will be flushing it with RUG today and then let it dry out.

I'll be rebuilding my HIH, but with copper or something else.
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Old 01-06-2005, 10:51 AM
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I will again reccomend HOH. If you look at the conversion companies products (Greasel etc) I think you will find none of them use HIH anymore either. Especially since you are dealing with a 300D. These buggers love vege and there are known to be ones on the road overseas that run pure oil with no conversion at all.

Use the hose on hose just to help the fuel flow from the tank. Honestly you may not even need that If corpus cristy is a warm TX climate and you dont venture far from it. Do a final heating of the oil to the temp needed for better combustion up in the engine compartment via a home made or commercial coolant/fuel heat exchanger or a 12v one orrr?.

For more information a discussion on this conversion is going on over at Maui Green SVO Forum
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Old 01-06-2005, 12:51 PM
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Ya, I never liked HIH. Too much opportunity for failure, and failure here is catastrophic. Coachgeo has it right, HOH is the way to go. Combine that with Dana's Hotrod heated fuel pickup, and you will never have coolant troubles again.

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