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Old 05-11-2006, 01:48 AM
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wait how is this a myth if the europeans have been doing it alot longer then us? And elsbett has a passat tdi with 200K on wvo

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Old 05-11-2006, 01:54 AM
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I don't like that they say "anyone with a diesel can dump the stuff in their gas tank and go with no modifications". They obviously did little/no research on the subject. They must have thought "Hey, that's cool. Let's try it."

They also taped over all the MB logos and 300SD emblem.

I will give some kudos to Adam. He knew how to properly pronounce the word Diesel. ("Diezel")
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Old 05-11-2006, 02:44 AM
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OMFG. They have NO automotive skills. In the hydrogen fuel saver, the instructions were to attach the hydrogen directly to the carb. The BLOCKED the ENTIRE intake flow and tried to run the engine off the little hydrogen "tank". And they wondered why it didn't work.
you think it would have run at all either way with that little amount? HELL @$%!I$ no. now calm down. they didnt harm it, they simply proved that is was possible to run on it. yes they didnt research it enough to know that it needs more than just minor filtering, but they wernt trying to prove how long it would run. you heard adam" i cant belive it will run on this stuff". now stop wasting your breath on bashing them.
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Old 05-11-2006, 03:20 AM
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you think it would have run at all either way with that little amount? HELL @$%!I$ no. now calm down. they didnt harm it, they simply proved that is was possible to run on it. yes they didnt research it enough to know that it needs more than just minor filtering, but they wernt trying to prove how long it would run. you heard adam" i cant belive it will run on this stuff". now stop wasting your breath on bashing them.
The problem was not that hydrogen will work, it won't. My point was thet sealed the intake completely. They put a plate over the air inlet forcing the engine to suck only the air/hydrogen from the tank. The design is supposed to be a supplement to the gas already being used in the engine for a MPG boost of 10-15%, not a replacement.
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I still get a laugh out of the sticker on the hydrogen contraption......
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I have not seen the episode but if anything they managed to take a complicated subject and present it in a way that would be digestable by an audience that can only maintain concentration on any given subject for 5-10 minutes.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:11 AM
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I just wish everyone would stop talking about it!

I wanna keep getting WVO for FREE! if everybody and their cousin starts doing it, they're gonna start charging for it!@O*$&)@#
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:03 AM
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I wanna keep getting WVO for FREE! if everybody and their cousin starts doing it, they're gonna start charging for it!@O*$&)@#
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too late. i noticed in the last year probly 100 new members that were only interestd in wvo and biodiesel. it gets annoying when thats all people want these cars for
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:11 AM
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too late. i noticed in the last year probly 100 new members that were only interestd in wvo and biodiesel. it gets annoying when thats all people want these cars for
Personally, that's what got me into driving a diesel Benz, as they are the most numerous type after 20 years of driving. But think of it this way -- all these people who will start filling their tanks with cold WVO will drive their cars into the ground quickly and make what's left over very valuable. And we can all say "told you so".
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:16 PM
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too late. i noticed in the last year probly 100 new members that were only interestd in wvo and biodiesel. it gets annoying when thats all people want these cars for
That's why I got the car. My brother showed me how to convert it to run on wvo and I was just intending to beat on it back and forth to college for a few years. Fortunately, before I got the wvo kit hooked up I found this site, which gave me more appreciation for the car than I could have gotten on my own. Now I appreciate them for what they are and I'm pleased with myself because I know if all my wvo sources dried up tomorrow, I'd still be driving these cars. I've added two other W123's to my stable since then and I'll be looking at another this afternoon.
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:30 PM
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The problem was not that hydrogen will work, it won't. My point was thet sealed the intake completely. They put a plate over the air inlet forcing the engine to suck only the air/hydrogen from the tank. The design is supposed to be a supplement to the gas already being used in the engine for a MPG boost of 10-15%, not a replacement.
They stated that they were doing what was described right in the patent. I can't fault them for following the instructions to a T . Besides this device is bunk anyway, electrolysis takes a lot of energy. Far more than you will get back when you burn the hydrogen.
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And what is it that you want your car for?

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too late. i noticed in the last year probly 100 new members that were only interestd in wvo and biodiesel. it gets annoying when thats all people want these cars for
I want mine for the 920+ miles per week I will start putting on it in three weeks. My driving profile is perfect for SVO. I get in on Monday morning, drive it for 460 miles, and then use it in town through Thursday. Thrusday afternoon I get in and drive it 460 miles back home. I'll use it on SVO/WVO for the 460 miles trips. I'll use diesel/biodiesel on startup, shutdown, and while driving around town.

Now all I need is a new driver's seat. The thigh supports are flat worn out. Any ideas on where to get a seat? How about getting this one repaired/repadded/recovered?

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I want mine for the 920+ miles per week I will start putting on it in three weeks. My driving profile is perfect for SVO. I get in on Monday morning, drive it for 460 miles, and then use it in town through Thursday. Thrusday afternoon I get in and drive it 460 miles back home. I'll use it on SVO/WVO for the 460 miles trips. I'll use diesel/biodiesel on startup, shutdown, and while driving around town.

Now all I need is a new driver's seat. The thigh supports are flat worn out. Any ideas on where to get a seat? How about getting this one repaired/repadded/recovered?

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i want mine for driving on DIESEL, LIKE IT WAS MEANT TOO. it pisses me off that once fuel prices rise, everyone wants an old mercedes and then this forum explodes with tons of new members that only wanna know about bio and wvo. on top of that they dont search!!! everyday theres another post about wvo and how someone wants to convert. if i had some bio i might run it once in a while. veggie? hell no not unless i was out of fuel and there wasnt a diesel station around.
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Old 05-11-2006, 04:04 PM
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to add to that, i bought my first mercedes diesel when i was 15.
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Old 05-11-2006, 04:19 PM
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i want mine for driving on DIESEL, LIKE IT WAS MEANT TOO. it pisses me off that once fuel prices rise, everyone wants an old mercedes and then this forum explodes with tons of new members that only wanna know about bio and wvo. on top of that they dont search!!! everyday theres another post about wvo and how someone wants to convert. if i had some bio i might run it once in a while. veggie? hell no not unless i was out of fuel and there wasnt a diesel station around.

I agree, I run mine on diesel, it has the most power on it, and is what the MB engineers designed it for. When people like Adam and Jamie on the mythbusters take an old MB diesel and say "look! you can dump cooking oil right in and go for free!" it makes tons of crazy people line up looking for these cars, then they try it, ruin it, and send it to the scrap-yard, with 0 appreication for the car itself and thereby taking tons of these cars out of existence and making it harder for the people that appreciate them to find any nice examples anymore.

I burn almost 80 gallons of diesel a month usually, and am perfectly glad to run it on diesel. I've been on the highway with veg oil when I tried a tank to see how it was. Acceleration is lost by about 15% from a standstill, and highway passing power is probably 20% less. Plus, I don't fully trust that it doesn't hurt the engine. When I have seen pictures of a teardown of a MB engine that was run 75-100k+ on veg oil then I'll believe its safe and worth it.

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