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The filter you show and I quote the Navy and Marine Corps: SER-002-99; Air Force: PM05; Army: VHM-- "The Bypass filtration is a system that provides high density, slow filtration (one to six quarts per minute at engine operating temperature) of engine oil without affecting the primary OEM filtration system. Bypass filters also remove solid contaminants down to 3 microns, control moisture content in oil, are compatible with all MIL-SPEC oils and extend oil drain intervals. Bypass filters are installed in the engine compartment of a vehicle or, nearby a stationary engine. The bypass filter is fed a slip stream of oil that bypasses the engine" Internal bypass VS. Engine bypass, in the case of Mercedes the oil doesn't leave the engine. A little different 
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05-12-2006, 12:33 AM
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i am near the 270k miles....
if i trash my engine I will admit to it.... no problem... I am going to do this years oil change this weekend... also I filter anything I put in my fuel tank.. I filter it through a roll of toilet paper... and no metal particles are left...
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05-12-2006, 12:50 AM
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Actually in his defense I have read that engine wear is highest when the oil has been freshly changed..... I have also read you should change your oil every 3000 miles. Im not sure that I would reuse oil but to be honest there is not a lot of science involved in the intervals and reasons to change motor oil....... If you look at the whole synthetic oil thing there is not a lot of science there either..... Synthetic oil was designed for aircraft engines that regularly see 10,000-20,000 rpm constant service at 100% throttle during departure and climb........ Car engine's don't produce the same abusive conditions to engine oil that aircraft engines do....... All these oil manafacturers who want to sell their "special product" don't invest a lot of research testing it on every engine in existance...... I really wish there was more real science involved rather than junk science and profit motivated science devoted to the concept of engine oil service....... The guy that makes a living changing oil or selling oil obviously is going to reccomend 3000 miles regardless if you see any benefit to that frequent of an interval and he really cares as little about your engine as he does about your wallet..... That's why I have always stuck towards what the manafacturer has reccomended for oils and oil changes..... I'm really not willing to risk an engine in the quest for "fuzzy knowledge" or trust "some guy" on the internet that got one million miles on one car by doing something odd to his car. While the oil change interval may still be profit motivated Im sure there was "some" fighting between the real engineers and the beancounters regarding profit vs engine life...... The Engineers have pride in making a "perfect" product that will last many years and the beancounters dont care about anything other than how much money they can make....
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05-12-2006, 12:55 AM
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I do oil interchanges every 1500 miles or so. average 3000 miles per oil filter. Just did an interchange.
how can used car oil be used as fuel? just filter and mix with predominant percentage diesel fuel?
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here is a link to a forum where a man says the oil has not been changed on his car for 40 years.......yes 40 years.... and all he does is change the roll of toilet paper in his filter....
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=000544 I burn the oil becasue i dont want to throw it away...
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05-12-2006, 01:01 AM
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I do however respect the guys that are out there experimenting on their cars and running biodiesel and WVO...... In the back of my mind if there is a fuel shortage I still do have the option of running on a home brew type of fuel....... Im glad to see the interest in Biodiesel....... It breathes new life into our cars...... While "some" cars may end up suffering from the un informed fuel experimenter its no worse than them sitting in the hot sun rotting with a for sale sign on them or being driven by a non enthusiast who does not maintain the cars...... There are only so many of "us" out here and more cars than we can save out there........ I saw a very nice 116 chassis 280S on Craigslist the other day in Atlanta for $500..... I just wish I had the space..... I also saw a 67 220SE coupe for $2000........ If I had the space and time I would have 100+ cars.....
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05-12-2006, 01:03 AM
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How well we take care of our cars is pretty insignificant if we are destroying our pl
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 How well we take care of our cars is pretty insignificant if we are destroying our habitat. And who cares if the car outlasts our habitat? If the car does not run off renewable fuel it has no future and wont be running very much longer. 1) Fossil fuel burning is killing the planet and should be stopped. Global warming is starting to wreak havoc and we dont have much longer to stop it. 2) Petroleum is running out. And what about your kids and grand kids? Dont you want them to be able to enjoy driving a Mercedes? If you burn up all the fuel and or destroy the planet, they can kiss that dream goodbye. Even if biodiesel and SVO are not viable for everyone now, the are viable for many and anyone that can should use it. Also, biodiesel and wvo could be viable for the masses in the future. Please wake up.
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i agree with you 100%!!!! Im thinking about the future. this is a start to something great! biodiesel/svo is cleaner then petroleum and is renewable. Do something better for the planet. Its our earth why should we keep ruining it by driving on a dirty fuel with cars that emit pure toxic garbage when that dirty fuel is burned. These MB's pollute like F*ck! on diesel. Even a TDI pollutes because we still have dirty higher sulfur diesel and ULSD wont be mandated untill late 07. Even then we are still harming the enviroment because its petroleum based. Id rather have a healthier enviroment for the future children rather then pollute just because people think biodiesel/wvo will ruin the car. I mean if it does ruin the car, ive saved enough in fuel costs that i can get the engine rebuilt!
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05-12-2006, 01:11 AM
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yeap, a person can burn veggie oil.... and the exhaust is only the
carbon that the plant absorbed... carbon neutral...protects the environment. and you dont have to put motor oil in every 3k miles either... saves the system millions of gallons of oil by extending the oil changes... and if you use your brain you can make your car last forever as well... using modern bypass filters, and performing maintenance my car is 24 years old with 260-270k miles on the odometer....
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05-12-2006, 01:15 AM
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Running my engine oil for 20k is just silly and not terribly beneficial for the environment. That, and I recycle my waste engine oil anyway. I'm not going to subject my car to a slow death for a few bucks and a couple gallons of oil given the many gallons of oil I've saved by burning WVO.
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Man the MythBusters forums look really dull - low reply counts to topics! And why does MythBusters have to be MB when abbreviated?
 Biggest thread I could find about the ep with complaints/comments about pretty much everything: http://community.discovery.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9801967776/m/5361968728 Veg Oil controversy on MB forums: http://community.discovery.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9401967776/m/6381978728 http://community.discovery.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9801967776/m/7671998728 "Gasbuster" hydrogen fuel cell discussion: http://community.discovery.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/9801967776/m/6281968728 And for you Kari Byron fans: http://www.fhmus.com/webtv.asp?idx_id=1146
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OK, I'll call it blueranger.
 Are you this dumb in person. Seriously. Who in their right mind would subject a good engine to such mistreatment? Running the oil in 4 different cars before you put it in the benz THEN going another 20,000miles!?!?!? Yes, the OM617 DOES have a bypass filter built in. BUT, it's nowhere near what all these high milage studys use. They use a very compact and thick material (TP or other thick paper) to filter down to ~2 microns. Open up one of ours and you will find one of two things: Rolled string or cotton gin waste. The string, while better than nothing, will not take out enough soot and ash to keep the oil clean for more than 3,000 miles. The cotton gin waste is just that, waste/garbage/junk/trash. Link to pictures of Fram filters used in the OM6xx series. I make darn sure to use the better filter and I change the oil hot and EVERY 3000 miles. You can't even contemplate how much oil is used in the USA every day. 8qts of engine oil every ~3 months is NOT a major amount. It's a drop in the ocean. Unless you are pouring it down the storm drain then most all of the oil is reused in some form or another. Power generation, road pavement, even most scenic railways fire their steam locomotives with used engine oil. "yeap, a person can burn veggie oil.... and the exhaust is only the carbon that the plant absorbed... carbon neutral...protects the environment." Go down to lower mexico where most of the cars/trucks are old generation diesels and you will see what this "protecting" carbon does. "here is a link to a forum where a man says the oil has not been changed on his car for 40 years.......yes 40 years.... and all he does is change the roll of toilet paper in his filter.... http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...;f=36;t=000544" He has a 61 Ford Falcon Ranchero, 5qts oil and 1qt is replaced every thime he changed the filter. Frantz filter is a mighty good filter system. I'd go 10,000 miles on an oil change myself if I had a system like that installed. EDIT: Great, now you got me to use an insult on a public forum. Thanks alot. 
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05-12-2006, 02:15 AM
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Blueranger...
i find it amazing that you find one single person that swears by something, and you whole heartedly believe it, and preach it to others. yet when everyone else tells you to reconsider these foolish ideas, the majority is obviously wrong because all of us have no idea what we are talking about. your thought process seems scewed. i just cant help thinking that you are also one of those computer nerds that thinks that your PC is better because it has a (Insert your company) component. you know this to be true because you read it in your colorfull computer magazine, and saw it on those cool comercials. you preach to others about how much you know about computers, but you are really just a dumb nerd that knows EVERYTHING. (gosh i hate those guys) all of your articles would have some relevance if they were performed on mercedes engines. since they were not, you should not take these to be your guiding light. please get your dirty oil sampled before you put it in your benz. where do you live, because i might just want to come and rescue your benz from you. you can do whatever you want to those gassers.
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Blueranger bashing.
Even though IMO what he's doing is a bit hardcore , it looks like plain stupid bashing him for this. Yea yea you love mercedes diesels and he's misstreating the car bla bla bla. I might sound mean, but I have to. I mean it's his car and he does what he wants with it. Would I do it in my car, probably not. Why? Because ~$60 (that's what costs me in Albania 7l of oil and spin on fuel filter+inline fuel filter+air filter+oil filter) in 4 months (roughly 5k km) is not a big deal. But the most important thing that refrains me from doing it is that I'm not sure that Blueranger is really doing it so ... .But what I can tell you is that I admire Blueranger for what he's doing. I don't know if he/she is telling the truth, but if indeed it is true then he's doing almost alot for the environment and our future. I say almost because burning used engine oil IMO is a bit dirty  . But simce you say that that oil is going to be burned anyways, burning it in a car engine is much better, more efficient than burning it in a locomotive or ship or what ever.You say that saving that much oil by reusing it in different cars is just a drop in the ocean we in Albania say brick+brick=wall. That means that if most people start doing it it won't be a drop in the ocean anymore. I find it more apropriate bashing people who say driving a Hummer is more comfortable than driving a prius, than bashing people like Blueranger. Yea Hummers are comfortable for 4 people, but so are mid sized cars like E classes. Unless you are a 400lb person, then you should first start taking care of your health and then think about cars  .
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