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aklim 04-25-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rhugg (Post 1835853)
Accurate, but our cars do little damage to the roads compared to the trucks and I beleive we pay more tax per gal on diesel than unleaded.

As for the guy that wants to pay more tax so he can have a european socialist eutopia, don't beleive it. I've lived in France and paid probably 3x the road tax we have. In general the roads aren't appreciably better. Nor is the medicine. The good part is that the poor can't afford cars so the roads are not that crowded.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a 5 speed TDI minivan that gets 40mpg?

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

You pay 13% of 3.24 for gas which is 42.12 cents
you pay 12% of 3.88 for diesel which is 46.56 cents

Perhaps so but the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence till you get there and step in the bull****

Not into 5 speeds

Biglex 04-26-2008 12:06 AM

Amen to both of you! Something has got to be done to simply cut the dependence on foreign oils. Once we free ourselves from their strangle hold, prices will drop!

moviking 04-26-2008 12:23 AM

I'll pay road tax on my wvo as soon as they stop charging all of us road tax for all the fuel we burn in our lawnmowers, weedeaters, chainsaws, offroad dirtbikes/atvs etc. :mad:

ForcedInduction 04-26-2008 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by moviking (Post 1836026)
...as soon as they stop charging all of us road tax for all the fuel we burn in our lawnmowers, weedeaters, chainsaws, offroad dirtbikes/atvs etc.

They already do, you just have to look for it.

aklim 04-26-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Biglex (Post 1836017)
Amen to both of you! Something has got to be done to simply cut the dependence on foreign oils. Once we free ourselves from their strangle hold, prices will drop!

Not a chance until China and India stop using oil. Remember, you are not the only buyer in town. If you stop buying today, China and India will gladly buy what you won't thus keeping the prices up

moviking 04-30-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1836054)
They already do, you just have to look for it.

:confused: Really, off road non taxed gasoline, please tell us even one place to get some, I've never heard of it and google did'nt seem to know either.

ForcedInduction 04-30-2008 01:09 PM

Ask the station manager if they have an off road gas card. Or, if you keep all your receipts, you can take it off your taxes at the end of the year. Call your state's dept of revenue and they will get you the forms.

Read this too:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1202529308243580.xml&coll=7

2.5Turbo 04-30-2008 03:09 PM

At my summer job at the marina, many people who have larger boats who pump many hundreds of dollars worth of gas at a time ask for a receipt showing gallonage. If they didn't ask, I usually asked them if they wanted one if it was a large amount of money. We didn't have diesel as we only had storage for boats up to 17', but the marina next to us that housed large boats had red diesel. Years ago we used to have 50:1 pre-mix gasoline for the small 2-stroke boat motors. It got too expensive and a lot of people were switching their small 2-stroke kickers out for 4-strokes, and the larger 2-stroke motors went to oil injection.

moviking 04-30-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1840088)
Ask the station manager if they have an off road gas card. Or, if you keep all your receipts, you can take it off your taxes at the end of the year. Call your state's dept of revenue and they will get you the forms.

Read this too:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1202529308243580.xml&coll=7

Thanks for the info and linc. :cool:

Jetmugg 04-30-2008 04:57 PM

Missouri dept. of Revenue
 
MoViking:
Here is a link to the Missouri Dept of Revenue site for fuel tax. They have the downloadable forms for fuel tax refunds on their site.

http://dor.mo.gov/tax/business/fuel/


SteveM.

bbeardb 04-30-2008 07:10 PM

Well, I've read all 17 pages of posts. It seems like the majority of it is arguing over what is legal or not. That's not so interesting.

I believe it would be far more interesting in arguing what is right or not.

Examples of what used to be illegal, but probably not right:

Allowing women to vote.
Allowing blacks to vote.
Counting a black as a whole person.
Sodomy (still illegal I think).

My point being, to hell with what is legal or not. Worry about what is right. Because remember, it used to be legal to own a slave here.

moviking 04-30-2008 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmugg (Post 1840331)
MoViking:
Here is a link to the Missouri Dept of Revenue site for fuel tax. They have the downloadable forms for fuel tax refunds on their site.

http://dor.mo.gov/tax/business/fuel/


SteveM.


Thanks Steve :cool:

bgkast 05-01-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bbeardb (Post 1840434)
Examples of what used to be illegal, but probably not right:

...

Sodomy (still illegal I think).

Good point, running WVO is like sodomy for diesels.

ForcedInduction 05-01-2008 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbeardb (Post 1840434)
I believe it would be far more interesting in arguing what is right or not.

It does not matter what you think should be legal or right. If its illegal, its illegal. If you think it should be legalized, then work to get the laws changed!

You can have all the sodomy you want, I don't really care about that...

turbobenz 05-01-2008 07:10 AM

Lance, give up man. Just give up. Your making yourself a pariah amongst probably half of your fellow diesel discussioners, your not getting anywhere, and even if you did, it wouldnt mean anything in real life. You cant win, they always will becuase theres only one of you. I know your against it becuase you hate to see these cars get hacked up and turned into crap but just be thankful that you have one or two that arent, and their yours. Thats what ive come to, I dont even care anymore. Who cares if they destroy them all with their veggie oil, I still have my 617's. Eventualy the survival rate for any mercedes is zero, so who really cares.


Damn, im tired. What am I doing at 4 in the morning on shopforum???? The above paragraph doesnt even really make sense to me right now. But seriously lance, just let go.


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