Anyone making biodiesel in west Wisconsin? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

#1 12-15-2003, 01:00 PM

I'm curious to know if anyone is currently producing any biodiesel of filtered WVO in the Chippewa Valley near Eau Claire, WI.

#2 12-15-2003, 02:54 PM

I too would very much like to make or buy biodiesel but need to find some truly accurate schematics and then somebody to build the machine for me.

Have you had any luck in your neck of the woods? What kind of car? How are you holding up in the cold weather so far?

I've got a '81 300TD.

#3 12-15-2003, 03:33 PM

Hey Shawn,

Presently, I'm not running a diesel. Would like to again in the near future. Wish I had known about biodiesel/SVO/WVO when I had my 300D.

Really would like to generate a local culture of Bio-D users here locally.

sohj · #4 12-15-2003, 04:30 PM

You guys should check out http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751

Make friends and influence people.

dieselkid · #5 12-15-2003, 06:45 PM

First of all, Please don't pay someone to build you a biodiesel processor. That defeats the whole purpose of Grassroots Fuels and why people would rather drive a car running alternative fuel. If you don't want to fiddle with things yourself then you shouldn't bother with Biodiesel or Svo.

On A lighter note, If you are interested in Biodiesel, you really should be more interested in Straight oil conversion. I built and ran biodiesel in one of my cars for a while and was thinking, Why make Biodiesel when I can run SVO in my car?

I then built my own SVO Conversion Kit for my 85 300d. This system makes a whole lot more sense then biodiesel. I'd love to hear a valid argument for making and running Biodiesel rather than SVO.
THanks

Toblin · #6 12-15-2003, 06:57 PM

I’ve been to Wisconsin. And biodiesel just won’t work there.

Come’on!! Think about it now!! Wisconsin only has two seasons; Winter and the 4th of July!

(Admire your intent though).

soypwrd · #7 12-15-2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by Toblin
I’ve been to Wisconsin. And biodiesel just won’t work there.

Come’on!! Think about it now!! Wisconsin only has two seasons; Winter and the 4th of July!

(Admire your intent though).

Don`t be so quick to judge.

http://forums.biodieselnow.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=24

sohj · #8 12-16-2003, 09:05 AM

Yo, Toblin!

Try telling that to people I know of in Northern Ontario and Nova Scotia.

They are doing just fine on biodiesel, thank you very much.

Have grease, will travel.

coachgeo · #9 12-16-2003, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by dieselkid
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I then built my own SVO Conversion Kit for my 85 300d. This system makes a whole lot more sense then biodiesel. I'd love to hear a valid argument for making and running Biodiesel rather than SVO.
THanks

Diesel Kid. I am one of the FAQ Post Moderators over at the General SVO Forum . I'm sorta in charge of getting info on MB WVO fueling conversions. Can you put together some info and pics of your conversion for us? That goes for anyone in here. Would love ya'lls help with MB specific (or any other actually) WVO burners.

#10 12-16-2003, 12:14 PM

dieselkid,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not thinking of buying from someone, I was looking for local support from someone who's been there already.

I also appreciate your preference for SVO over biodiesel. Wieghing the options in my mind, I was curious to know whether there is a strong argument to justify the extra effort to process the SVO into biodiesel. Apparently, in your opinion, there is not. Here, here to SVO!

Now I just need to buy myself a diesel.

coachgeo · #11 12-16-2003, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by mrdane
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Now I just need to buy myself a diesel.

Not that it counts for much but I agree that going with SVO is much easier.

oh and shameless plug..... I have a CHEAP 300 dollar diesel that will be available once I get the MB300D up and running... Im guessing that would be Feb at the latest. Its a Datsun. Engine, tranny is AWSOME (160,000) body is POS. Great winter car.

dieselkid · #12 12-16-2003, 05:07 PM

I will get my info together shortly and no less than 25 pics of my 300d conversion. It's not rocket science

Also, SVO conversion would work in Antartica. When you convert your car to run SVO, temperature has little to do with the system working properly. You can find used oil that is liquid down to 5 degrees. Even if it's that thick gravy crap (which I've used successfully) it will still work. When your car is running you are melting or atleast heating the SVO. Worst case scenario, convert your car to run SVO then If you are at sub zero temp just make some Biodiesel.

Or, move to Florida

Just kidding.

Biodiesel gells to crap fast too.

p.s. When I was researching the SVO conversion on my 300d I wished that someone had some substantial information on the 300d conversion. Didn't find much so I just saw it as a challenge. My 300d is also my DAILY driver so it wasn't like I had this "EXPERIMENTAL" car to fudge with. My point is that I will put together pictures of my conversion and am willing to help out if I can. Just email me with questions. I've gone over all your questions myself to figure this out so just ask.

wheelguru · #13 12-16-2003, 05:27 PM

If you are willing to only go with SVO when it is warm out you can just dump it right in the tank. I have run up to 65% veggie to diesel this way in the summer. It will only work down to about 50 degrees for a mix, (lesser concentration of SVO as it cools off). I set myself up with a hand crank pump, some plastic hose, fittings, and an inline filter like you see on gas pump hoses for about $45. That with some 5 gallon buckets and I was in business. For next year I will add actual gas cans instead of buckets, and a sock type filter as a first step, but you can do this for cheap as long as you don't want to go year round.
If (when?)I get real ambitious, I will pull the tank out of my parts car and plumb it for heat, then just replace my existing tank with the heated one so I can run svo on road trips even when it is cold. I don't think I want to get into 2 tanks, I need the trunk room for gear what with 3 kids.

coachgeo · #14 12-16-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by dieselkid
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p.s. When I was researching the SVO conversion on my 300d I wished that someone had some substantial information on the 300d conversion. Didn't find much so I just saw it as a challenge. My 300d is also my DAILY driver so it wasn't like I had this "EXPERIMENTAL" car to fudge with. My point is that I will put together pictures of my conversion and am willing to help out if I can. Just email me with questions. I've gone over all your questions myself to figure this out so just ask.

Yeah there is not much substantial info in the particulars of installation in any specific vehicle. Just generic stuff soooooo this is why in the forum I spoke of above we are trying to create some post on specific vehicles. I can post your email if your willing to answer questions that would be great.

Specific question for you? What did you do with the fuel return line from the injectors and how did you get the plumbing to work with its small diamter hose. This is causing me problems cause the ID is so small I cant find "T"'s etc. to fit it. I used a universal "T" but it creates a back pressure problem in my IP and throws the whole thing off cause it reduces the "ID" even further at the "T"

dieselkid · #15 12-19-2003, 09:23 PM

Going to have a mess of pics up soon for you all to look and I'll answer any questions you might have.

Also, the summer SVO is not a good idea. To much for the injection pump. The room temp oil in the summer still does not have a low enough centistroke level. The consistency needs to be close to that of diesel for a reason. So if you have two or three "project" cars or just loaded with cash then definately run the SVO in the summer, but you might as well burn used engine oil in your tank. That will work too.

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