VirginiaDude,

We're actually put something together to host a lady who does Biodiesel workshops wherein we learn the fine points of brewing up Biodiesel. Right now, the discussion is centered around doing something in Berlin (near OC) or Eastern Shore. I and one other guy have offered to host a workshop in Berlin where we would build a biodiesel refinery. I would offer the materials for building one (using an electric water heater, lots of plumbing, and a few tanks) and we would either host it at my place out there or another place near OC. I'll post info if anything firms up on it. THe primary player would be coming in from out of town - we would be providing the venue and some materials, basically whatever is needed.

- Ted

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1987 300SDL 265,000 mi.
1982 300SD 325,000 mi. (and holding)
1956 Packard Clipper 150,000 mi.

Count me in on any information seminar. I am definately interested in learning more about how to do this. I also know several restaurant owners who would work with me to get as much used oil as I need.

I am located in Silver Spring, but just don't have a place to do this as yet.

Anybody run this stuff in a diesel boat? Thats where a real savings could come in. Compare a mercedes burning 3 gallons an hour vs boats that burn 20 to 60 gph!

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Alan Hamm
'87 300SDL 277K Miles
'89 560 SL 68K Miles

good news has come down the grapevine.
a friend has just purchased an old airport shuttle to convert to a motorhome and we started talking about WVO and bio.
as it turns out, a farmer friend of hers inland already has a bio processor up and running.
however, he hasn't got his process perfected yet, so the three of us are going to pow-wow and work out the bugs.
one of their biggest hang-ups right now is what to do with the by-products (the methanol laden glycerine). we started to discuss reclamation of the methanol and the possibility of selling off the glycerine (dried flower makers apparently use it) or using it as a fuel source for heating the bio processor.
journeytoforever.org also had interesting info on the use of ethanol instead of methanol, this process is substantially more involved, but the benefit is that ethanol can be distilled more easily than methanol, thus cutting more of the cost.
anyhow, getting closer to production...

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'61 VW Baja "Frosch"
'92 Honda Shadow 600
'80 Honda 185 (cafe project)

I'd be interested in the seminar too. Just starting to look into biodiesel/blends, so I have a bunch of reading & learning to do.

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1984 300TD Turbo 156Kmi
"He who seeks knowledge begins with humbleness" - Buju Banton

http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/bioD.html

I found this page on google about bio fuel. has anyone used these beads? I like the Idea but I don't want to buy a bridge.

I don't know if anyone else has seen this site, but this guy in Northern Wales has a recipe for a type of bio-diesel that doesn't involve the nasty chemicals, and seems to require less cooking (energy) to make. http://www.bio-power.co.uk/makeit.htm
I'm thinking of messing around with this approach myself. If I come up with anything useful I'll post.

Cheers,
Peter

He has been discussed and cussed lol alots in the veg. world. Consensces is his stuff is just a blend and the wording of all his stuff is very decieving. Some have concerns about his wording could mean the fuel he/they sell will be thought of as "biodiesel" which it is not. If his stuff is not to good then it could give Bio-D a bad name.

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Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair

-Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion
-Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD

Manufacturing biodiesel has always been rather daunting but adding filtered WVO to the tank seems pretty easy.
Question: HOW do you filter? WHERE do you get the filter elements?

Most common first step filter method is gravity; settling. After that the filter methods/tools used out there in vege land could fill as many books as the Harry Potter series. Many of the books would end up just about as wacky of a book too. Best to just read read read about "pre filtering" over at Maui Green Biodiese/SVO forums (Infopop)

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"Know other lessons I need to learn? TELL me. Tired of learning'em the hard way".

Glow Plug Wait: [i} Time of silence in homage Rudolph Diesel. Longer you own a diesel. more honor you give". [/i]

Life; SNAFU Situation Normal All Fouled Up, & FUBAR: Fouled Up Beyond All Repair

-Now: Snafued Jeep TJ w/OM617 2Be daily driver & building SS M1079 w/Ambo boxed /live in Adv. Truck, Diesel KLR conversion
-Sold 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD

Spoke to a guy at the National Biodiesel Board meeting this winter who runs sport fishing boats out of San Fransisco Bay and has been doing it for a few years. He says his boats get more customers `cause his trips aren`t hassled with stinky diesel fumes.

My partner is designing and about to build his personal skiff that will be powered by biodiesel using a small Kubota engine....looking to get 27 MPG.

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23 cylinders sipping the sweet sauce of the soy bean

Hey V. Dude,
Here are two threads to keep you eyes on;

http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2540

http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2253

Love to have you come along, I`m sure we`ll have some interesting conversation. :p

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300TD W124, Two VW TDI Passat Wagons,Cummins Ram 250, Kubota Tractor
23 cylinders sipping the sweet sauce of the soy bean

cool.............I hope to get my research done soon so I feel confident enough decide what process I plan on using so I can build the appropriate plant.

With the Current prices it makes lots of sense to do. More than ever.

Shawnster

I just picked up some filter bags from McMaster-Carr...$3.91 each for 1, 5, and 10 micron bags, and it doesn't look like they charged for shipping by USPS. Hope to build a filter assembly for WVO to mix with diesel after work this week...I'll post photos if it works!

Chuck

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1983 300td 240k (down with bad tranny)
1984 300d 222k (daily driver) "Olive"
1997 GMC K2500 105k (sled dog limo)

"The scenery in ANWR is as spectacular as the Grand Canyon and the wildlife is more impressive."

Really looking foraward to getting into this.....Anyone have a DC metro souces for the methanol and the Sodium Hydroxide?

for purely medicinal purposes of course.

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1971 280SE W108
1979 300SD W116
1983 300D W123
1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper
1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel
1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified)
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