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Old 05-23-2007, 01:40 PM
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ALL W210s WILL RUST

Ditto. It should be a sticky for W210s...rust spots are:

1) All door frames - TSB issued - check yours at the dealer for service, they apply a wax based sealer behind the weather stripping. Pull back the weather stripping around outer door frame to check. If there is existing rust, they should fix the rust for free, then apply the service wax.

2) All wheel well arches

3) Hood lid, at front, near grille

4) Fuel flap

5) Trunk lid at bottom corners, and especially around the lock cylinder

6) Less common - around trim pieces and tail lights.

7) Spring Perches. The big one. Just do a search.

I don't think it is a case of lack of rust protection, the W210 is galvanized, as the W124 was. Likely due more to the manufacturing process. Some causes of this particular chassis rust have been attributed to sharp edges created during the manufacturing/stamping process of the sheet metal - edges served as the starting point for corrosion.

It is a definite issue for any W210, especially older models. I'm lucky in that my current E430 has done quite well, but I have to address minor rust in all spots listed above.

The previous E430 I had briefly (and sold) was a mess of rust. The more I found, the more disgusted I was. Tons of rust.

In contrast, my 1989 300E served over 17 Canadian winters and was only starting to rust when I sold it this past February.

Night and day between the W124 and the W210 in terms of body corrosion.

Falsa - good luck but I don't think you'll get anywhere with MB. No harm done in trying though! I complained to the dealer but stopped short of contacting MB Canada.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:49 PM
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Damn, that sounds more like an old Kia problem. I would ditch the car if I had to provide it that kind of pampering. Shame on Mercedes for cutting corners on the newer cars. Is this due to more green party influence (i.e. water-based sealants, etc)? My 380SE has no body rust at all.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:59 PM
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Damn, that sounds more like an old Kia problem. I would ditch the car if I had to provide it that kind of pampering. Shame on Mercedes for cutting corners on the newer cars. Is this due to more green party influence (i.e. water-based sealants, etc)? My 380SE has no body rust at all.
From what I have seen, it has been due to problems at the manufacturing stage. Not a lack of rust-proofing or galavanzing, but rather machining errors.

Apparently, the door frame rust was caused by a burr in the tool that rounded the frame corners - the burr left sharp edges exposed, which initiated the rusting.

All W210s made during a certain time frame will have this rust. The bulletin covers the chassis numbers. Don't think yours is affected? Peel back the outer door weather stripping and take a peek. Most older W210s will have rust there.

A shame, really. The W210s are great cars, and beautiful, IMO. Fantastic engines and transmissions. But the chassis...
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:13 PM
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A shame, really. The W210s are great cars, and beautiful, IMO. Fantastic engines and transmissions. But the chassis...
and the wire harness .
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:39 PM
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and the wire harness .
the W124 has the wire harness problem.
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When I get a newer car in a couple of years I think I'll skip the W210 and go right to the W211.

I saw a 1998 E300D at a train station that was rusted like crazy! Looked like a 20 year old car, amazing.
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When I get a newer car in a couple of years I think I'll skip the W210 and go right to the W211.
You'll need one after 2004 or you might find the same problem.
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I don't think it is a case of lack of rust protection, the W210 is galvanized.
I think you may be wrong...
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Rust & MB's

Of course by now, MB knows to make their car almost rust proof. I would expect MB is smart enough to do this as rust should be a thing of the past. Needless to say, if my car showed any rust I would dump it and try a Lexus.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:01 AM
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and the wire harness .
I believe that was more of a problem in the W124 M104/M119 engines.
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Ah yes. Another reason I love the 124. No rust on either of ours.

The first vehicle I ever owned that just would not rust was, believe it or not, a 1986 Dodge Caravan.

Maybe the EPA has a new rule prohibiting rustproofing. They may want the cars to decompose and disintegrate rather than hanging around forever like styrofoam.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:20 AM
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Ah yes. Another reason I love the 124. No rust on either of ours.
Yup, my 300E was a rust-proof tank. One damn fine built car.
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It is a definite issue for any W210, especially older models.
Just for the record, my older 96' has zero rust spots on it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:00 AM
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Just for the record, my older 96' has zero rust spots on it.
Have you looked closely enough?

You may be one of the lucky ones. Try peeling back the weather stripping on your outer door frame and inspect it. I would be surprised if you found no rust at all. Look at the bottom of the door frames as well.

I'm not bashing the 210 overall - it's a fantastic car to drive and I love mine. But the rust issues are unforgiveable, IMO. Sad to see such a beautiful car rust like a freakin' Lada left in a salt bath.
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