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Old 07-09-2004, 12:11 AM
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Help ! Help! Wherever you are! Zaino! JBAJ007

About a year or more ago, a nice gentleman responded to a Post I had up on Zaino. JBAJ007 I found him I think he is the one!

I believe he was a chemical engineer and he explained in laymans terms how Zaino works. It had to do with short and long polymers and a number of other things!

I found it to be interesting and it explained the ins and outs of polishing a car and how materials react with one another.

I deleted a bunch of Posts about a year ago and I must have deleted that one.

If you are the person who provided the info, can you repost the data?

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Old 07-30-2004, 02:10 PM
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You can also try www.zainostore.com.
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:27 PM
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I think this is the one you are looking for: (you are right about the author - jbaj007) from 10/24/2001 -

Tom; Zaino doesn't say exactly what is in their products, but from some minor familiarity with BIS GMA polymers and bonded composite resins over many years, I am fairly sure they are long chain polymers that crosslink with an accelerator that is inhibited in the presence of water. The Z-1 would bond primarily vertically (to paint below and subsequent resins to be applied above). Z-5 would crosslink vertically (hence the swirl fill as it fills down into the micro-scatches) and horizontally (therefore the reflective "gloss" or shine). Z-2 would crosslink preferentally in the horizontal plane resulting in the more reflective high shine. Z-6 would be primarily horizontal links because it is high gloss and very very low static (no loose "vertical" electrons there!) Some typical reactions that are probably similar (though not the same) are free radical reactions where a series of side branches of a monomer molecule are +/- an electron and go looking for a similar branch to "hook up" with, thus polymerizing , say, into solid methacrylate (ie. plastic!). The longer chain at the beginning usually will polymerize into the longest chain at the end of the reaction(sort of; you get the idea), and usually longer is better. Silicones are relatively short chains and this is why we don't like them that much (ArmorAll?). The effect is, that after polymerization of long chain crosslinked resins you get a smooth flat finish over your car. The reaction is initiated typically by an accelerant (a catalyst, UV, high energy blue light, heat, etc.). This is why I believe H20 is an inhibitor for the reaction ("cure") since Zaino cures faster at low humidity and in sunlight (related on Zaino website). It's not just a matter of it "drying" it has to polymerize (or cure) without water. Zaino and First Finish are the only two products I know of that work this way, but smarter folks than I probably know of some others. Organic waxes are just polished mechanically flat. Polymers can chemically react "flat". And flat = reflective= shine(gloss). Sorry for length.
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