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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

I am 90% sure that they said 12 and 16 cylinder diesel's were used as thruster engines.

This would not surprise me, the bow thruster is doing the work of a tug boat. I have been on tug boats with twin 10' wheels and EMD diesels. That is a lot of push. It will push around a 700' tanker with a fair current running down the river.

Doncha just love these oil-related threads? Look. All things being equal, more filtration is not a bad thing. But I'm here to tell you that I just retired my 1989 Mazda with a 2.2 liter turbocharged engine, with 300,000 miles on it. I retired it for electrical reasons, not mechanical. It was still running fine and pulling full boost. The engine was never opened up except for scheduled timing belt changes at 60K. Original turbo.

Oil was changed at 3K intervals with dino oil. My point is that if you have a good basic design and perform maintenance as recommended by the manufacturer, your engine should last.

Oh yeah, MTUPower guy - the loose translation of MTU is not "Mercedes Turbine Union" - it's "Motor and Turbine Union".

Disclaimer. I work for a diesel engine manufacturer. Not MTU. 10,000 HP is a small to mid size machine for us! And we use them for plenty of generators, not just ships!

Rgds,
Chris W.
'95 E300D

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Originally Posted by Chris W.

Oh yeah, MTUPower guy - the loose translation of MTU is not "Mercedes Turbine Union" - it's "Motor and Turbine Union".

You're right Chris- but that's the tight translation- all you'd have to do is note the spelling changes from german to english. No one would then know the relationship to the mercedes family however, which is why I roughly translated it in this forum to what I did. I'll take the floggings. BTW- I don't work for MTU either, in case anyone thought I did here.
Didn't mean to wear DT out- but don't like being called son when the man would have to be a father at 9 years old to be my dad over something I believe I'm correct on. Heard the producer of a ESPN fishing show I was working on say "it's not my show, it's not your show- it's THE show" It's not my idea, it's not your idea- it's THE idea. I don't (as others perhaps do) get emotional or feel slighted over inanimate objects. Sorry DT....
now will someone start a thread about the correct tranny fluid to use in winter or something?
:p

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

At the diesel meet on Sunday I was talking to the owner of a 1995 E300D with 316k on the clock. He had installed a Frantz oil filter on it 120k+ miles ago and was having awsome results! The way I understand it using toilete paper as a filtering element is an old but effective idea. It will filter down to sub micron size, it will filter the soot out for example. By doing this you never need to change the oil! All you have to do is every 2,500k replace the tp in the Frantz and add a quart of oil, than every 5k miles replace the oe filter+ the tp filter and add another quart etc. By doing this you are replenishing the oil additives, this is what wears out the oil never does, and the Frantez cleans it well enough that the oil stays very clean. He has had the same Delvac 1 in their for 120k miles and has had it tested every 10k miles and it always comes back good for another 10k! By doing this you are always running clean oil threw your engine, say you change your oil every 5k miles, after say 2k miles some soot starts to build up, the oil suspends it fine but it is still their. The Frantz filter will keep the soot and crap level very low say changing your oil every 1k miles low, so clean oil is always moving around your engine.

The way I plan to install this on my 603 is to copy the way he did it on his 606. I will tap off the oil filter cap, with a 90 degree fitting and run that pressure line to the Frantz, then I will tap my valve cover and drop the nice clean oil in right on the cam/timing chain. I will install a clear filter between the Frantz and the valve cover just in case the tp breaks apart. He did this also because he did not trust it at first. Hopefully the cleaner oil will help the lifters clear out, 603's seem to be sensitive to oil quality. I might still change it, I will get the oil tested at 5k mile intervials for awhile just to make sure it is fine. This will be my project this December.

Junk India filter's are a thing of the past.

This is their web site:
http://www.frantzfilters.com/products.htm

Before you do the Frantz.... Take a look at what th eCumminsd guys run. Amsoil makes a sweet kit. I don't feel like running additional oil lines and such on my NA 606, but if I had a turbo, I would have setup one of the AMSoil kits in a heartbeat.

http://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/2001dodge_cummins/

Toilet paper is for my A$$, not my MB diesel kitten :D

Using their picture of how it works, I'd worry about reduced oil pressure for the bearings and such.

http://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/..._dia_300px.gif