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Old 10-08-2004, 11:13 PM
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Question Biobor, what is it, why do I need it???

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Old 10-09-2004, 05:11 AM
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Great stuff

Just bought a 1980 300Sd that had been parked for three years. The fuel was dark brown from the critters living in it. I drained about nine gallons into two five gallon Nalgene jugs with the intention of dumping it. I pulled and cleaned both tanks, cleaned the screen, replaced the rubber fuel lines, and blew out the feed and return lines. I put in about ten gallons of fresh fuel with new filters and a shot of Biobor and that made the car happy again. Just for fun I gave one of the jugs a shot of Biobor too. In two days the treated jug was clear enough to see the bottom so I treated the other one. A week later I ran it through a 5 micron filter to get rid of the goo and used it in my daily driver.

Most impressive thing I've seen with Biobor is the treatment of 8,000 gallons of continated fuel in a boat. They shocked the tanks with Biobor and two days later came back and pumped the fuel into their holding tank while they flushed the tanks with 15 gallons of kerosine. They saved his fuel, cleaned his system, charged him $500 and gave him a one year warranty.
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:04 AM
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Like most car maintenance this is another area where prevention is the best approach. Generally, algae in the fuel is preceded by water in the fuel. Generally, fuel that is kept free of water is also free of algae.

That point having been made, I consider it cheap insurance to treat your fuel with a biocide a few times a year to curb this problem before it gets out of control.
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:33 PM
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How about dumping a couple cans of HEET into the tank? Supposedly it works for diesel too.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:45 PM
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I used BioGuard (made by ValvTect) on someone else's recommendation. Got it at Outdoor Superstore for $13 plus $6 shipping (Price increased to $15 now). Put a clean prefilter on, dumped it in my tank. Drove to work the next morning and the prefilter was already clogged with the black stuff. Soon as the tank is low, I'm changing out the tank filter (already had one on hand).
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Fungus is like the clapp: You don't geyt it unless you get exposed to it. Fungus doesn't come out of the air: you have to get fuel contaminated with it. So what is I'm saying is that Biobor is not preventive mintenence. Its only needed if you have a fungus contaminated fuel system.

I have been using Diesel engines for 40+ years and only has a fungus problem one time. That was in my '80 300SD that has been in all the startes less one. Someplace in those travels, I got contaminated fuel and had to use Biobor to kill the fungus.

Since using the Biobor 10,000+ miles I had to replace one inline fuel filter and did no other cleaning fo the fuel system.

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Old 10-23-2005, 04:21 PM
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Fungus is like the clapp: You don't geyt it unless you get exposed to it. Fungus doesn't come out of the air: you have to get fuel contaminated with it. So what is I'm saying is that Biobor is not preventive mintenence. Its only needed if you have a fungus contaminated fuel system.

I have been using Diesel engines for 40+ years and only has a fungus problem one time. That was in my '80 300SD that has been in all the startes less one. Someplace in those travels, I got contaminated fuel and had to use Biobor to kill the fungus.

Since using the Biobor 10,000+ miles I had to replace one inline fuel filter and did no other cleaning fo the fuel system.

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.........but then how did the contaminated fuel get contaminated?
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Old 10-23-2005, 05:37 PM
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it is

my information that if you have water in the tank fungi will grow. no water no fungi.

so i believe that you can get it without being contaminated from the outside. after all where would the first fungi contamination come from otherwise?

or also you can get it from a contaminated tank.

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T walgamuth,

U don't need water in tank for fungus to grow, it actually lives off the Diesel fuel.

U get fungus by buying contaminated Diesel fuel.

Biobor is best fungus killer, but its expensive. I paid $40 for a quart and $40 more for shipping because its considered a hazardous substance.




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Old 05-29-2008, 02:51 AM
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Fungus

Starbrite's Startron diesel enzyme fuel additive in the diesel tank...no further
worries...breaks down the Fungoidal infestation into particles small enough to
pass through the filters and burn in the engine.

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HEET is ALCOHOL which is hygroscopic (attracts water molecules...bonds with
the water molecules...F***s up the Injectors,I.P.and Engine).
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.........but then how did the contaminated fuel get contaminated?
Intelligent design, obviously.

Seriously though, fungus spores are everywhere (we are all quite fortunate gonorrhea isn't equally airborne!). Bacteria are also everywhere. If something hasn't been specifically sterilized, you can pretty much bet there's stuff growing on it. That includes you.
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In my opinion Startron works better than Biobor. Besides Biobor specifically says "not for automotive use" on the label.

That said you can get both items at West Marine.

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Old 10-18-2008, 12:59 AM
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In my opinion Startron works better than Biobor. Besides Biobor specifically says "not for automotive use" on the label.
Yep. It's illegal for use in on-the-road vehicles. EPA standards and all that. It's actually spelled out on the 1 QT and bigger containers of it, with a big 'It is a violation of federal law to [...]' thrown in for extra fear.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:58 PM
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CI are you telling us that if we know in fact that we have algae to use startron instead?
Whats the dose for an infected w123 with a stock tank?
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europower,

U can't know in fact that U have algae because algea does not grow in oil.

What U might have is a fungus that will grow in oil.

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