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Three years ago I found a spotless like new front seat for my 85 300D.
The passenger seat on the other hand is in SAD shape, sitting in it feels like sitting in a chair a 450 pound man sat in for 20 years--its just dead slack. What's the easiest way to fix this--I have fiddled with seats and doing upholstery is not that much a black art to me, but just the same, I dont want to hand make a chair. Besides plying junkyards for a replacement, whats the "REPAIR" solution... |
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I recently repaired the driver's seat on the SDL. It's a bit more difficult than the 123 because of all the seat motors, however, the concept is the same.
You need to get the seat out of the vehicle and then take it apart. It is likely that the seat pad needs to be replaced. However, on the SDL, the seat spring frame had three broken springs, so this also needed to be replaced. The pad is about $100. The seat spring is a bit over $200. |
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I'm assuming that the 123 is fundamentally the same as the 126 - if not then the rest of this will not interest you!
The seat base is made up of a series of wire rods bent into springs, and in some places the springs are welded to each other. What will have happened is that several of these rods have broken, allowing the seat base to collapse. If you have time on your hands, and are adept at welding, you could presumably take the seat apart and attempt to repair the spings by welding them back together again. The rubber/hair pad that rests on top of the springs, and over which the upholstery cover is stretched, will likely be past it's sell by date too, so it will need seeing to. In the case of my drivers seat I decided there was no true repair, only a partial replace. I removed the seat from the car, dismantled the seat back from the base, removed the leather covers and separated the spring base from the motor assembly and rails. I ordered a replacement (genuine MB) seat base spring and rubber/hair mat from performance products and put everything back together using the new parts. I still have the old seat base and pad, and could probably find time to take pictures if anyone is interested in seeing what they look like. The new spring base has reinforcements in it that were not present in the original, perhaps it will last longer? There are posts out there already that detail the whole procedure, and include pictures from memory. Kevin
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Yup. It's the same for the 123. Your springs are likely broken and the pad is tired. Some have had temporary success with stuffing a couple of tennis balls in the springs to prop things up but if you're keeping the car for a while replacing the springs with the newer, stronger version (it's all they sell now) is worth it. If you're replacing the springs it makes sense to replace the pad too, it makes a difference. By the way, the passenger seats in the junk yards are usually the ones in decent shape so that fix ought to be on your radar screen.
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Best $$ I've spent on my cars was replacing the drivers seat springs - on the ones that needed it anyway. I would recommend only going with a new MB spring too.
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I second that suggestion also from experience. I also noted that the p/n for the new style replacement seats (for the W123 ) starts with 126 XXX. I had the paper tag that came with one somewhere if your interested I may be able to find it. The springs are significantly different between the old and the new.
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Carrameow
With the two sets of rails things can get confusing when your doing a swap. First make sure both adjustments (sets of rails) are working as easy as possible because they must be moved around allot to access mounting bolts. Have an philips impect driver handy, I have found it to be a very usefull tool. I agree with the others, money well spend, makes you feel like your driving a "new car" ![]()
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