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my take on this... whichever makes YOU (the owner) happy... if you like to slap in aftermarket mags on it.. go for it.. if you'd like to put in cone filters boost gauges, boost controller etc.. and it will make you happy... go for it...
if you like to keep everything stock... including a 55amp alternator.. good for you.. you have the originality of the car preserved... as for me.. i'd probably be in the middle. put in some nice upgrades.. including a voltmeter, but keep the overall look stock... i've got bundt rims by the way.. thinking of getting a steel rim with MB hubcaps.. ehehe... i might be going out my mind for thinking that..:-p but it's all in the way my car would keep me happy.. if the mod i make to it makes me smile everytime i see the car. and it makes me drive it other than the OTHER car... well then.. i say its a good change.. ![]() IMO.
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man after my own heart - keep it up dude..!
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I have in my mind what I want to do to my 240D when I get it. I'm thinking simple but relatively stock. I would like to find a set of 15" 8 holes for it, add on euro headlamps with smoked corners, put a decent stereo in it, and *gasp* add keyless entry using an aftermarket system as well as an aftermarket door lock solenoid attached to the stock lock rods.
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which is rarely ( got a teenage daughter, and I wouldnt want her to think I am more of a kid then she already does ) I would fancy dropping a small Volvo 4 cylinder Turbo in their with a manual, turbo boost and cam and lo restriction exhaust and hide it nicely..I checked ,the dimensions are fine..then add a few fiberglass fenders, discard the rear seat, spare tire, interior panels...but this is beer dream land...
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I plan on keeping my wagon until it dies, so I did some fairly extensive modding (though nothing that really sticks out in a bad way).
Basic stuff:
Other stuff:
I've probably forgotten a few things, but that's most of it . Here are some pictures...
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MB made a great car and I really want to keep mine for a long time. I like its classic look and don't really plan to alter that but one thing I will do before long is replace the seats. No, I'm not going to fix them, I'm going to replace them with something else. 2 of my friends have Volvo wagons, and those seats are 10 times as nice as my crappy MB seats that hurt my back. I'll take orthopedically adjustable, comfortable, heated leather seats from a Volvo or Saab or similar. If anyone has any specific ideas, I'm all ears. But I will NOT drive this great car with those crappy seats for much longer!
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I hate the seats too (all my other mods made my last road trip great, but my right leg and my back hated every minute after the first six hours...). If you or anyone else gets any good ideas please share!
I love the seats in my friend's 95 Toyota Avalon...
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I liked the seats in the 89 Volvo for a few reasons. 1) Being 15 years old they should be cheap if I can only find a pair in really good shape. 2) They have a wide plain panel all the way around that makes it look a bit like the MB already. 3) The heaters in the seats are really nice 4) the lumbar adjustment is in just the right place for me (I'm 5', 10") Still, I need to look at several options and am inclined to get something newer because I want it in good condition
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The "unintended consequences" of modification...
Despite Phideaux' contention that "...the W123 is not a perfect car" I'd beg to disagree. These were the last automobiles where the engineers were in charge, MB was at the apogee of certain developments of technology, and the products were "...built to a standard, not to a price point."
Everything in a W123 is there for a REASON. When we start changing bits and pieces, rarely can we think through to what the effects might be on the car five or ten years in the future...or how easy it will be to "undo" a modification, or other consequences (guys I know with souped-up VW beetles soon find out that they have to have brakes to go with the "big" engines). Having dealt with a number of old cars, a major puzzle is often what kind of repair an unknown "shade tree mechanic" made maybe decades before, and how to correct the problem (in trying to get an aftermarket AC to work in an early '50s Packard, the problem was that one pully that LOOKED stock had been replaced with something off a contemporary Buick). The W123 came off the drawing board as a whole unit that...worked. They've lasted so long because there are so few weak spots of any consequence. No matter what changes we make in good faith, they might in the long (or medium) run turn out to not be such good ideas, and be hard or impossible to reverse. |
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Our W123s are definitely classics, but due to the large numbers of them made, probably won't ever be considered collector cars. Having said that, I think that the decision on whether or not you should do modifications to your car is very much a personal choice. There are obvious shortcomings that can be corrected with judicious modifications that will make the car easier to maintain or a better ride. On the other hand, you can go overboard with wild modifications that satisfy some inner need, but that ruin the car in other folks' eyes. In either case you can be affecting the resale value of the car, but considering the low present value, the inmpact may not be that great.
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I am a classics professor, but also an incurable hot rodder
and my '85 300TD (only 338,000 miles and fueled with WVO blend) is in the process of conversion to 15 X 7 AMG rims just so that I can upgrade the tires, since it's getting hard to find real handling rubber in 14". If I could afford to play games with power mods and conversion to a manual transmission, I'd do that, too. Now if I had a '57 Ferrari Pininfarina Cabriolet, I'd PROBABLY leave that all original, but let's face it, there are herds of these W123 cars still on the road -- they'll never have value except as great transportation. Remember what Aristotle said: "The being of the ax is in the cutting," meaning that things which aren't performing their function aren't worth much beyond the value of the raw materials -- I believe that once, many years ago, Ferry Porsche quoted this to an interviewer regarding museum cars which can't be driven.
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It's your car, do whatever you want with it. If you want to keep it stock, fine, if not mod it. I have a friend that has a 1957 olds 2-door post with the 372 j-2 engine. It came with an auto, very rare. He chopped it, souped up the engine, put a 4-speed in it and it's one bad ass hot rod. The people at the olds club almost had a heart attack when they saw it. It's beautiful now and just as he wants it, because it's his car. Do to your car what makes you happy, if it's not fast enough for you and you can make it faster and are willing to sacrifice some reliability go for it, if not don't condem others because they chose a different method of car ownership. This isn't a collectivist society of car owners, no one can tell you what you can or can't do to your car (unless it's like putting a quad 50 anti aircraft turret on the top) Good luck to everyone with whatever they decide to do.
-Nate
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I've thought of putting these Rims (http://www.adsitco.com/catalog/productdetail.asp?ID=7742) on my car and keeping my bundts (they need refinnishing), but have a hard time picturing what they'd look like on my 300CD. Other than that, it's all stock except for an pioneer radio.
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