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Old 11-17-2004, 10:55 PM
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Talking 2005 Cdi

Man O' Man, today i drove to the local dealer to look at a 1999 E300 Turbo Diesel. When I got there I was looking at this car when I started talking about the CDI. He said we have one here on the lot, would you like to look. Duh! Man that's sweet. I got to test drive it and man was it ever nice. The Torque on that car is unbelievable. Had I not known that it wasn't a diesel, I would have guessed that it was a gasser. Couldn't hear the engine at all, even when i was on the outside of this car. $52,900. asking price. Well i'll own one that's for sure...maybe in 10 years, but i'll own it.

When I got back to the lot there was my reliable classic '86 300 SDL with a big smile on it, just waiting for me to jump in her and take off into the sunset. Which I did so so gracefully. I did look back though
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:36 PM
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I got to test drive it and man was it ever nice.
Now, you know, Tom, that you should have never done that.

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I did look back though
Now, you know, Tom that you should have never done that.

Remember, Hattie only had to hint at selling the SDL.......................
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:46 PM
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Well I know.. By the time I got home i'd settled down a bit..knowing that I'm all into my Classic.

You know it doesn't hurt to bend a little. I did tell him,(salesman) that i'd get back to him on the 1999 E300 Turbo.

note: I told him that I wasn't going to get rid of my car. He did tell me as I was getting into my car that for a car that old it was in great condition. Now I liked his remark...so I guess some car salesman are nice...
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:58 PM
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I liked his remark...so I guess some car salesman are nice...

............slick Andy was very nice. "pukeface"
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Old 11-18-2004, 12:05 AM
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Remember, Hattie only had to hint at selling the SDL
Now you know that Hattie, appreciates a fine CDI. He probably gets "whiplash" every time he drives by the Mercedes Dealer...heck I did looking back at the big silver diesel...
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Old 11-18-2004, 07:05 AM
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It will be interesting to see how those CDI's age, and if they have serious problems or just little stuff. The first 100,000 miles should tell the tale I suppose.

With all the little common problems the W123 and W126 cars have, the core engine is pretty solid. Not the same with some of MBs other cars.

So, in about five years the CDI story should be clear - and maybe sooner if the same design has been used in Europe for some time. I just have my doubts about the fuel injection system and the aluminum engine.

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Old 11-18-2004, 11:35 AM
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Now you know that Hattie, appreciates a fine CDI. He probably gets "whiplash" every time he drives by the Mercedes Dealer...heck I did looking back at the big silver diesel...

Now thats an understatement. Lets put it this way if I had the money a CDI would be in my driveway so fast! I am still working on a test drive maybe next spring I will take a walk around the dealer lot.


I can only hope and dream the MB graces our country with the S400 CDI.
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:57 AM
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You may want to take a look at the saga of Viesel's CDI here. It's a very long thread, but I'll summarize it for you here. The dealer ended up buying it back from him because they could not solve the problem.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:06 PM
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I test drove an '05 CDI a while back.

Nice car, but not nice enough to justify the price. They wanted $56k for it, and I'd been saving a little bit out of every paycheck for a long time...

Instead, I found a really nice 240D.

Now I've got a great classic car AND I've still got $54k in the bank.

15 years from now? I bet my 240D is still on the road. That '05 CDI I drove? I bet it'll be rotting in a junkyard someplace in 15 years.

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Old 11-18-2004, 10:32 PM
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I test drove an '05 CDI a while back.

Nice car, but not nice enough to justify the price. They wanted $56k for it, and I'd been saving a little bit out of every paycheck for a long time...

Instead, I found a really nice 240D.

Now I've got a great classic car AND I've still got $54k in the bank.

15 years from now? I bet my 240D is still on the road. That '05 CDI I drove? I bet it'll be rotting in a junkyard someplace in 15 years.

- Patrick
Thats's exactly what was said about your 240D.
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:00 PM
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Thats's exactly what was said about your 240D.
I remember asking my grandfather (who was a diesel mechanic) what he thought was "the best car". He said that he would get one of the new MB diesels. I remember him saying that they were "expensive, but built better". This was around 1976/1977 or so.

I don't know if he was specifically speaking about the 240D or some other MB diesel of that time - just that he had a high opinion of MB diesels.

When it came to cars, machinery and engines, he knew what he was talking about. I wonder what he'd think about new MB's...

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Old 11-18-2004, 10:41 PM
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Comparing a 72 hp 240D and a 201 hp CDI is like pitting a Checker cab against a Viper. The 240D cranks out 97 lbs.-ft of torque, while the CDI puts out 369 lb.-ft.

There's a lot more to owning a car than knowing it can make it to the grocery store.
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Old 11-18-2004, 10:50 PM
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Question CDI engine

Vahe,
I'm thinking along your lines, also. I'm wondering if anyone has thought of combining the best of both (at least til the engine dies) by retro-fitting a CDI engine/trans into a 126 body? The weight of the CDI is roughly 3300 lbs, and the 126 is roughly 3800lbs, so not much loss in usable torque or hp. The engine bay of the 126 is enormous, and with a few driveshaft mods, it should work. Just wondering...

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Old 11-18-2004, 11:46 PM
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Yes, the CDI is one of the most impressive diesel car that I have ever owned. Although the dealer was unable to find the problem, Im sure that these cars are probably going to turn out to be a long term reliable car. I am trying to work out a european delivery for the replacement of the one that the dealer bought back.
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:14 PM
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There's a lot more to owning a car than knowing it can make it to the grocery store.
Well, if it's a new MB it surely won't make it there to
often since it'll be at the dealer being fixed.

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