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Old 09-09-2005, 09:29 AM
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Lucas Oil Stabilizer stops blowby dead in its tracks! 5mpg increase in fuel economy!

I recently decided to try some Lucas brand oil stabilizer. I changed my oil, added two bottles/quarts of the stablilizer and then the rest with 15W40.

I had some oil consumption and blowby before this.

Lucas stopped most of the blowby and I have driven well over 1500 miles since my oil change with no oil consumption whatsoever! I am amazed at this product.

I was getting about 23-25MPG before the Lucas. We went on a trip this past Monday of several hundred miles and we were getting 28.5 MPG!!! And on that trip my odometer clicked over to 265,000 miles.

I got an increast of 5 miles to the gallon. I did not change anthing else. I am using Power Service fuel treatment in the silver colored bottle.
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I've been thinking of trying that stuff but I'm very reluctant to spend my $ on miracle fluids. Maybe this one is worth it. I guess I'll see what happens.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:26 AM
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I was getting about 23-25MPG before the Lucas. We went on a trip this past Monday of several hundred miles and we were getting 28.5 MPG!!!
That is consistent with the variation between stop-and-go city driving and highway mileage on a long trip.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:45 AM
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Sidebar comment:
I've observed the economy in my 300D change +/- 2-5mpg between tanks of fuel while driving under the same conditions...ie, in town commuting, same route. I suspect that some batches of pump diesel have more giddy-up than others.

If the oil will light off at 22:1 compression, a diesel will run; it just won't make as much power. OTOH, a gasser ingesting snotty fuel will generally have pistons and valves chattering at you most vocally.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:55 AM
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I hear the fuel treatment is pretty good. But you may want to look at THIS
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:22 AM
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great benchtop experiment

Hi,

Whoa, I love garage science. That was an eye opener, I was really thinking of putting some stabilizer in my 240D manual tranny to get rid of a grinding noise at startup. Maybe I'll just leave it be. It sounds like dry parts that take a few seconds to get lubed up probably on the primary shaft. I'm just another dummy suckered into using that stuff at the parts counter while twirling the gear gismo.

About the blow-by on the highway vs. town, this makes tons of sense! I always wondered why my Saturn SW2 (notorious oil burners 1qt/1000mi) didn't burn a drop on a 400 mi highway trip from San Jose to Los Angeles. I talked to the Saturn Engineers who do blow-by flow testing (I designed the NTK M100 Blow-by meter years back) and they claimed after much arm twisting that the car had a problem and it happens when you chop the throttle (high vacuum).

My 240D burns 1QT every 1000mi. This is a little different, I notice if I drive on the highway at 70 it'll go through oil fast. Stop and go isn't so bad. I have removed the cyclone oil collector (was cracked) and just looped the vent to the intake. Till I figure out a better way to collect and condense the vapor, I'll send it to the intake and carry a quart of oil in the trunk.

Back when I designed blow-by meters, I used to collect the goo that built up in the flow meters. You don't want this sh.t going back into your oil. It was a mixture of fuel, oil and water. Maybe 20% water. So, I've been reluctant to replumb the separator.

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PMARI, Good Work ! Great reference specific to this thread...
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Old 09-09-2005, 11:35 AM
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I have been using the Lucas Oil Stabilizer in my engine oil and it doesn't froth like that. Wouldn't the frothing be apparent on the crankcase dipstick? Perhaps his experiment is flawed with possible air compression through the gear teeth?

My oil consumption is down with the additive in the oil but I am not quite sure of the quantity since the dipstick obviously doesn't have any capacity markings. Also the car is rarely parked on level ground overnight so I don't think I am getting accurate readings. I'll have to set up more scientific tests.
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I hear the fuel treatment is pretty good. But you may want to look at THIS
The use of Penzoil in this experiment makes me wonder how much this guy really knows about oil but overall a decent experiment. Did he really prove anything other than a color change?
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What I noticed was the difference between the synthetic blend and the fully synthetic oil. The blend performed better.

Also the experiment could be flawed because when he added the lucas he changed the amount of oil in the sump. With the lucas added there was more volume of oil. The experiment should have been done with the same volume of oil at all times.

Overall a decent experiment though. Makes me glad I used the Blend in my differential.

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His experiment was clearly flawed because the real criteria is the wear on the teeth of the gears....
But even as short an experiment as he ran showed the oil foaming.... and the speed his gears were running would not come close to that of real cars.... and also does not represent the huge load factors on the car gears which would be involved....
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frothing

I have had no "frothing" of any kind whatsoevery in my car. I know how much oil I WAS consuming and the level has not budged. I was consuming at least one quart every 1000miles.

My highway mileage was much lower than the 28.5 I am now getting on the highway. I am positive of this.
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I use the Lucas oil stabilizer in all of my cars and I believe in it. Do a search for my name and Lucas and you'll see my previous responses to that so-called experiment. The thing that got me hooked on this product is the much improved smoothness of cold starts that I noticed, indicating that this product improves lubrication by preventing dry starts. I've also had good results with their power steering fluid which completely stopped the leak on the 87 300D. I don't have any frothing either, but I'm still wary of putting it in a differential or manual transmission because I can't easily inspect the fluid there. Anyone tried it in those places?
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I’ve used Lucas stuff for years and I really like it. I have stabilizer in the engine, tranny, transfer case and both differentials. In the front hubs is Lucas “hub oil”.

I just got back from a 3700 mile trip in my 616 powered Rover and used less than a quart of oil, and that was with a filter change half-way thru. (It has a remote filter set-up) Taking the filter into consideration the truck used maybe 8 oz.

I’ve never noticed any frothing, and yes, I had to check the tranny multiple times when it was hot as it developed a leak shortly after the trip started. Nice, clean, stable oil, just as you’d expect.

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Our 240 burns very little, if any oil when the oil is fairly fresh. When it gets near 3000 miles or more, it will burn more oil. That could be the reason for the decrease in oil consumption in your engine.
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