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Old 11-14-2005, 04:59 PM
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How to access glow plugs

I've got an '85 300D and wanted to pull my glow plugs and bench test them. I can hardly get my hand down there to unscrew them. The only way I can figure to get them out is to remove the metal fuel lines from the top of the injection pump and the injectors. Is this the correct way to gain access? Do I need to be aware of anything before loosening the lines or do they come right off?

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Old 11-14-2005, 05:19 PM
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I've got an '85 300D and wanted to pull my glow plugs and bench test them. I can hardly get my hand down there to unscrew them. The only way I can figure to get them out is to remove the metal fuel lines from the top of the injection pump and the injectors. Is this the correct way to gain access? Do I need to be aware of anything before loosening the lines or do they come right off?

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Scott
Although it is possible to remove the GPs with removing the metal fuel lines doing so makes this job a lot easier. Nothing to be aware of before loosening them but make sure you start them right when you put them back on. A cross thread won't seal and you will have to get new parts if this happens.
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Yes, I completely agree.

You can remove the hard lines in about 10 minutes with a 17mm open end wrench.

When putting them back on, first tighten all five fittings on the IP. This should go without any difficulty. Make sure that you start them all by hand.

The attach each line to it's respective injector. If the line is not lined up with the injector, use some brute force and bend the line until it's lined up. Then, force the line down to the injector and start the nut, by hand, and be sure that you have it on without a cross thread. Tighten it securely. Repeat for the other four injectors.

I strongly urge you to bend the hard line, as required, to ensure that it is aligned with the injector, before starting the nut. If you fail to do this, there is a better than 50% chance that you will cross thread it. Then, you're out of commisssion until you get another hard line from the dealer. Significant cost and a lengthy delay.
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Old 11-14-2005, 06:50 PM
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All I could add is, using a gear wrench helps.
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All I could add is, using a gear wrench helps.
Yes, even with the hard lines removed, a gear wrench is valuable for #4 and #5. Inaccessible with a socket.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:08 PM
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I've got an '85 300D and wanted to pull my glow plugs and bench test them. I can hardly get my hand down there to unscrew them. The only way I can figure to get them out is to remove the metal fuel lines from the top of the injection pump and the injectors. Is this the correct way to gain access? Do I need to be aware of anything before loosening the lines or do they come right off?

Thanks,

Scott
I agree with everything above, but let me ask a dumb question. Why are you removing the GPs to bench test them? You can check their resistance in the car, which is a reliable method of making sure they are working. IMHO, it's not worth the trouble of removing them unless you are going to replace them. Just wondering.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:53 PM
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"it's not worth the trouble of removing them unless you are going to replace them"

I've had bad GPs pass the resistance test (coulda been the tester ) I always pull em cause theres no mistaking if there good or bad when you put the juice to them on the bench, (not to be done with the old style plugs tho)
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:59 PM
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"it's not worth the trouble of removing them unless you are going to replace them"

I've had bad GPs pass the resistance test (coulda been the tester ) I always pull em cause theres no mistaking if there good or bad when you put the juice to them on the bench, (not to be done with the old style plugs tho)
In general, I just check them if the car seems to miss when starting (The idiot light doesn't tell you until two GPs fail on my 300D). I check them with a multi-meter (from the relay plug) and just replace the one that fails. Takes about 5 minutes.

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