Aaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!!! Please tell me I haven't REALLY blown it. - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

300DPETE · #1 11-27-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by P.E.Haiges

Your biggest worry is if the bolt falls down into the crankcase and it gets caught between a rod and the side of the engine block. This would force the bolt thru the side of the engine.

Ahh. So it's not like there's a sealed channel right to the pan. There's a side of the hole that is exposed to the rods? I guess I'm having some difficulty visuallizing.

Pete.

t walgamuth · #2 11-27-2005, 07:17 PM

picture the upper part of the block and head. there will be holes in them that simply go straight down. from the area of the valves and cam it is a straight shot down to the open part of the crankcase where the crank rods and oil reside. if the nut is small enough and the hole big enough it will simply fall straight down to the oil pan. now if it is at the back of the pan it might not fall forward into the lower part the steel sump where the oil collects and is picked up by the oil pump and distributed. i would take a strong light and look down the hole or probe it with a coat hanger first. if it is not lodged it will be in the pan. then after being certain it is not in the hole i would drop the steel pan and look there. if not there i would reach back in the upper pan with my hand if enough room if not then with the magnet.

i dropped a nut down in one of my engines a few years back. i was really scared. but i dropped the pan and found it on a ledge just under the cam chain area.

i think you have an excellent chance of finding it in the sump or the pan. you could also jack up the back and tap the pan to get it to fall forward.

beleive me you arent the first to have this problem. you will get it out!

tom w

MTUpower · #3 11-27-2005, 08:45 PM

Have you thought about using a shop-vac? stick it in the hole and turn it on... if the engine is still full of oil.. drain some first. Just a thought.

300DPETE · #4 11-27-2005, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUpower

Have you thought about using a shop-vac? stick it in the hole and turn it on... if the engine is still full of oil.. drain some first. Just a thought.

I thought about that...I'll try that if it doesn't end up in the pan.

leathermang · #5 11-27-2005, 09:35 PM

That sounds like an EXPLOSION....
Fumes from oil sucked into an electric motor....
I would not try that if I were you...

TheDon · #6 11-27-2005, 09:38 PM

maybe he means put it on blow instead of suck..

300DPETE · #7 11-27-2005, 09:48 PM

Ok, I wont do that

300DPETE · #8 11-27-2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth

picture the upper part of the block and head. there will be holes in them that simply go straight down. from the area of the valves and cam it is a straight shot down to the open part of the crankcase where the crank rods and oil reside. if the nut is small enough and the hole big enough it will simply fall straight down to the oil pan. now if it is at the back of the pan it might not fall forward into the lower part the steel sump where the oil collects and is picked up by the oil pump and distributed. i would take a strong light and look down the hole or probe it with a coat hanger first. if it is not lodged it will be in the pan. then after being certain it is not in the hole i would drop the steel pan and look there. if not there i would reach back in the upper pan with my hand if enough room if not then with the magnet.

i dropped a nut down in one of my engines a few years back. i was really scared. but i dropped the pan and found it on a ledge just under the cam chain area.

i think you have an excellent chance of finding it in the sump or the pan. you could also jack up the back and tap the pan to get it to fall forward.

beleive me you arent the first to have this problem. you will get it out!

tom w

Thanks, Tom. If it fell down a hole that's in the back of the engine (towards the firewall, wouldn't it be better to jack up the front end so it falls backwards (if it's in there) and down to the pan instead of forwards and towards rods, etc.? Am I seeing this right?

BTW, I tried the magnet but didn't find anything. I'm going to drain the oil and take the pain off (which will take forever as the engine is stone cold).

Pete.