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neumann 12-29-2005 12:18 AM

no dash lights, flaky tach, temp and fuel gauge not working...what gives?
 
on an 82 300TD (wagon)....no dash lights, flaky tach, temp and fuel gauge not working...what gives?

anyone have a pic of a "jumped" reostat (spelling?)?

Ken in NC 12-29-2005 09:31 AM

You most likely have a loose electrical plug on the back of the dash. Fashion a stiff wire with a small hook in the end, and use the hook to wiggle the dash cluster out enough to disconnect the wires on the back of it (to entirely remove the dash). The large electrical plug is most likely loose.

Regarding no dash lights, naturally check the two dash bulbs first. They are at the top of the dash cluster. If they are fine, your dimmer is probably bad. The dimmer has only two soldered connections to the circuit board...it is pretty obvious which two they are. If you solder a short insulated wire across the two connections, you will have dash lights at the brightest level, which is about a normal setting for me

Diesel Giant 12-29-2005 09:38 AM

I never use the wire hook on the cluster thing anymore. I just take 2 screws out of the lower knee panel and stick my hand up to the back of the cluster and push it out.

Works much better.

Check your ground connections.

Pete Burton 12-29-2005 09:39 AM

I snapped a picture when I did mine a while back, but believe me, you don't need it. I'd recommend doing it though, wish I did it 9 years earlier!

pmari 12-29-2005 10:55 AM

Why jump it when the rebuild is so simple...
http://web.archive.org/web/20040603004113/instrument.articles.mbz.org/dimmer/

ImBroke 12-29-2005 11:16 AM

Do your other electrics work, ie windows, sunroof?

Pete Burton 12-29-2005 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmari

when the spring is hanging out and everything inside is shredded it's not rebuildable like that.

neumann 12-29-2005 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImBroke
Do your other electrics work, ie windows, sunroof?

windows and other items work fine...manual sunroof

Pete Burton 12-29-2005 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neumann
windows and other items work fine...manual sunroof

I still pine for the sunroof on my 99. One little tug and it was right where you wanted it - fast.

sailor15015 12-29-2005 02:08 PM

Most definately check your main grounds, like the body to the chasis. I bought my brother's '84 a week or two ago and a couple of days later it quit starting. The temp and fuel gauges would go crazy before it quit and I just thought it was a shorted out instrument cluster. I swapped clusters from my wrecked '85 and still no dice. The weird thing is that the gauges would peg and every light in the cluster would come on when the speedo cable touched the back of the cluster. I took a jumper cable, hooked it from my EGR to my negative battery post and it started. I didn't have time to look for my main chasis-engine ground because I was leaving on vacation but when I get back I expect to find it in pretty bad shape. Also my other electrical items worked fine up until and during the period when it wouldn't start.

Stevo 12-29-2005 06:07 PM

"check your main grounds"

First take a peak under the car at your main ground strap, about abeam the bellhousing, driver side. 13mm I think

There are two you will see if you take out the instrument cluster, look with the flashlight, you cant miss them.

Lose grounds will do all kinka strange things:eek:

sailor15015 12-29-2005 08:05 PM

Now that you mention it I do remember it being on the bell housing. I also remember I couldn't get the bolt loose. If I do need to replace the strap will it hurt anything to just loosen and re-tighen just one bolt on the bell housing? It won't mess up any kind of alignment?

ImBroke 12-29-2005 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by neumann
manual sunroof

:splat: duh,, man sometimes I just can't read.. Of course you have a manual sunroof.. Nevermind that comment..

I agree, either a loose connection, or messed up ground.

ImBroke 12-29-2005 08:19 PM

I'm not with it tonight.
 
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Here's a pic of what a jumpered rheostat could look like.

my123ca 12-29-2005 08:21 PM

You could also have a burned out wiring behind those instruments. When you take out the instrument cluster remove the metal covers at the back. The thin copper strips under the white paint would sometimes pop like a blown fuse.


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