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Old 01-05-2006, 10:45 AM
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Glow plugs should last how long?

Hi. How long should glow plugs last?

I just found a dead glow plug. They were replaced 28K miles ago. They are Autolites. Is this normal? Also, I've seen advertised a Bosch glow plug controller that is supposed to keep the glow plugs hot for 3 minutes. Does anybody have experience with this?

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Old 01-05-2006, 10:54 AM
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From what I have read here, Autolite glow plugs have a reputation for short life span. Others recommend Beru or Bosch.

The extended glow cycle controllers are known to work well but also mentioned is their tendency to shorten glow plug life.

Are you having starting problems? A good brand of glow plugs and valve adjustment helped mine significantly.
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Old 01-05-2006, 10:54 AM
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I've heard autolites are crap, and you are lucky you got that far with them. Bosch all the way.
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Old 01-05-2006, 10:57 AM
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Glow plug seem to be like light bulbs, I don't know what the mean time to failure is but they just randomly fail at the least opportune times. I'm not surprised that you have a dead one after 20k+ miles. Most folks here would not recommend Autolites, I have had good luck with Bosch.

I have the Bosch GP relay with the afterglow feature in my 300D. It seems to help the engine run smoother, with less smoke for the first couple of minutes.
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Old 01-05-2006, 11:03 AM
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Not having starting problems yet (!). The glow plug dash light is not coming on. So I decided to check the #1 plug and it was dead. By the way, these puppies are hard to reach. It took me forever with a 12mm open end wrench. What's the best tool for removal? A deep socket? A ratcheting box wrench?

The Bosch controller sounds like a good idea. Does anybody have a part number?

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Old 01-05-2006, 11:14 AM
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Not having starting problems yet (!). The glow plug dash light is not coming on. So I decided to check the #1 plug and it was dead. By the way, these puppies are hard to reach. It took me forever with a 12mm open end wrench. What's the best tool for removal? A deep socket? A ratcheting box wrench?

The Bosch controller sounds like a good idea. Does anybody have a part number?
This is the relay kit:

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/quote.jsp?clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&cookieid=1CQ0J3JZ41PB0NZIV4&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&partner=mercedesshop&year=1984&product=F1101-60420&application=000483705

The consensus seems to be that it's easier to change the GPs by removing the fuel lines. Personally, I just stuff my hands through the lines and use a short wrench.
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Old 01-05-2006, 11:28 AM
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Great! I'll get the controller and maybe remove the lines this time.

Where and how does the controller mount? Is this a replacement part or an add-on?


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Old 01-05-2006, 11:34 AM
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This is the relay kit:

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/mercedesshop/sophio/quote.jsp?clientid=catalog.mercedesshop&cookieid=1CQ0J3JZ41PB0NZIV4&baseurl=http://catalog.peachparts.com/&partner=mercedesshop&year=1984&product=F1101-60420&application=000483705

The consensus seems to be that it's easier to change the GPs by removing the fuel lines. Personally, I just stuff my hands through the lines and use a short wrench.
thats how i lost my 8mm wrench to the ip. put a string on yours just in case.

i removed the lines on my 300. wow so much room! wratchiting boxes are the way to go. the space ro remove the plugs is not socket friendly. the small socket is too short and the next size is too long in some places.
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Old 01-05-2006, 11:53 AM
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thats how i lost my 8mm wrench to the ip. put a string on yours just in case.

i removed the lines on my 300. wow so much room! wratchiting boxes are the way to go. the space ro remove the plugs is not socket friendly. the small socket is too short and the next size is too long in some places.
It's probably easier to remove the lines, I've just never bothered. Fortunately, I can usually loosen mine about 1/2 turn with a wrench and then just unscrew them with my fingers. The 240D is considerably easier than the 300D.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:00 PM
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Where and how does the controller mount? Is this a replacement part or an add-on?


r
The relay replaces the stock relay, mounted on the left fender well, behind the left headlight. It looks just like the new one, with a black plastic cover that just snaps off. It's very easy to get to, and the electrical connections just unplug. Replacing the relay should be quicker than replacing the plugs.
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Old 01-05-2006, 03:10 PM
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I replaced mine with Autozone Bosch units for 9.99 per unit and it was a pain, but with patience I was able to get them all out. I tested my suspected 'bad' ones and they all tested good. So I put them away with my other stash of W123 stuff.
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