Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-15-2006, 08:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Woodlands, Tx
Posts: 67
Question Behr radiator, hose clamp torque?

I have seen many references about breaking behr radiator necks. Anyone know what an appropriate torque to tighten hose clamps would be, I did a google search on the general topic and saw a reference on hose clamps at 22-in-lbs. Does this seem like a bit to much for a plastic neck?

__________________
87 300SDL (115,000mi. 7/1/2008)
03 Jetta Wagon TDI (62,000mi. 7/1/2008)
75 240D(sold, sad to sell it, needed the garage for the SDL!)

Smokey
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-15-2006, 10:34 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 992
new radiator

just take your screw driver and tighten it gentlly...
then start the car and look for leaks... then just tighten
a little more until there is no water seeping out...

if you have the old radiator then you must be extra careful...


if you have a new radiator it has a metal insert but still i would
exercise caution....

this is a big deal and torque is not the answer.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-15-2006, 10:38 PM
Hatterasguy's Avatar
Zero
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Milford, CT
Posts: 19,318
Just tighten it don't go nuts. No one torques hose clamps. Sometimes they will leak when it gets cold, just snug the clamp up a bit more.

After a few heat cycles usually you need to cut the hose to get it off anyway.


One school of thought is to dump the MB hose clamps and use wider generic clamps on the radiator. I buy into this and have done so, makes sense wider band distributes the load better.
__________________
1999 SL500
1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-16-2006, 11:53 AM
69 mercedes 220d
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bozeman, Montana
Posts: 417
hose clamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
Just tighten it don't go nuts. No one torques hose clamps. Sometimes they will leak when it gets cold, just snug the clamp up a bit more.

After a few heat cycles usually you need to cut the hose to get it off anyway.


One school of thought is to dump the MB hose clamps and use wider generic clamps on the radiator. I buy into this and have done so, makes sense wider band distributes the load better.
I agree with Hatterasguy. Replace poorly engineered clamps with the wider stainless screw clamps. The wider clamps put more surface area contact with the coolant conduit, be it radiator, block, etc. As said, it so easy to over tighten hose clamps. Breaking the neck on the radiator is only one of the dangers. The other danger is cutting through the hose. I always make sure the coolant conduit is clean with no "bumpy" deposits which make it more difficult to get a good seal. Also, keeping the edge of the clamp about 1/8" to 1/4" from the sealing rib is optimal, in my opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-16-2006, 05:38 PM
BF_JC230's Avatar
w123 and w203
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southtowns of Buffalo, NY
Posts: 530
why not use a T bolt Clamp?
Jake
Attached Thumbnails
Behr radiator, hose clamp torque?-clamp.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-16-2006, 07:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 992
clamps

the neck of my radiator broke last summer so i replaced it with a junk yard
one and we broke the nipple to the overflo by overtightening.... so i am very catious in this area.. i salvaged the radiator with a vacuum connector and so on my neck i have 2 hose clams instead of just one ...

so if you have the old radiator without the metal insert you might consider using 2 clamps and then just tighten them lightly until it does not leak...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-15-2006, 11:58 AM
Jeremy5848's Avatar
Registered Biodiesel User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sonoma Wine Country
Posts: 8,402
I have an older Behr radiator without the metal insert

Quote:
Originally Posted by blueranger
so if you have the old radiator without the metal insert you might consider using 2 clamps and then just tighten them lightly until it does not leak...
My mechanic added a second hose clamp, just as you suggest. He also suggested replacing the radiator with the newer style. I probably will not do that as long as the current one is OK.
__________________

"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-15-2006, 12:11 PM
300SDog's Avatar
gimme a low-tech 240D
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: central ky
Posts: 3,602
IMHO, best rule for torquing hose clamps anywhere on the car including fuel lines, valve cover vapor/breather lines and radiator hoses...... tighten em just to the point where the clamp cant be rotated or moved from side to side - probly about 10-16lbs.

22-28lb range is generally considered kosher for most miscelaneous nuts'n bolts like water pumps, alterntor brackets, etc..... Its roughly a gentle touch with typical short handled rachet, not leaning into it or exerting alot of force.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page