I have no problem with the mechanical design, quality, performance, or cost; I just don't like them.

Generally a wise idea Brian.

I was just assuming that the V12 was bad (usually a safe assumption), and since there is an extra 617 laying around......
I actually thought about the swap more in terms of the 6 cyl. being swapped out. I have driven a few of those, and the position of the steering wheel just isn't comfortable. Looks mighty cool over that hood though......

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Well, as he mentioned above, the V12's are trashed.....for whatever reason, so, the idea makes a bit more sense.

But, it's still a whole lot of work to accomplish, including jury rigged rack linkages and transmission connections. When you get done with all that work, you've got a vehicle that nobody would purchase other than yourself or some other diehard M/B fan.......and that's even unlikely.

It isn't going to be much work for me at all! It's awful easy for me to tell somebody else to give it a try. I'd love to see one, but I don't have near those skills...

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'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John

JaguVettes are a nice conversion, you get the reliablity of the Chevy V8, the ability to crank out lots of horses = paste your ass to the seat accelaration, very decent road handling, and a very classy body. Shopped well and done right, you can have a great car for 15 grand.

Put a 617 in Jag...not my idea of a good conversion...of course you would look real cool going real slow...great parade car. I'm sure the Jag would rather you just put a bullet though it's hood and just let it die in peace.

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......now it gets to die in a fog of diesel fumes.........going slower than anything else on the road.........with the possible exception of a 240.

Poor cat, I'll even provide the bullet for such a worthy cause.

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That one made me laugh reeal hard.

Hey, 617's are fast when they've been put in concept cars and tuned to 300+ hp by a large group of MB engineers! 200+mph!

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I've seen kits that claim to have 100% of the parts to do a chevy eng Jaguar conversion. I've always thought that Jags of the 70's and 80's looked good, but heard nothing but horror stories about the engines and electrics, including unfixable 3 month old cars!

True: A friend had a RR limo at his wedding. The reception was in his father-in-law's (fairly fancy) house in an exclusive neighborhood of winding streets that the limo could barely manouver through. Anyway, it stalled! My friend's dad, (an engineer at Ford) and I wanted to see the engine (their engines are supposed to be very nicely detailed). Under the hood - surprise! a dirty small-block Cheby painted orange with a brush, equipped with a genuine chrome plated air cleaner (rusty). Ha ha, I gave them the business about putting on a show as the entire bridal party provided the power so that the driver could execute a series of complex turns to get the limo off the street...

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THIS would be a much better choice of an engine for a Jag. BMW X5 4.7L TURBO DIESEL

With a 6 speed
Wonder what the top speed is.

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Have any of you guys ever found out what a V-12 costs to repair? the heads cost a small fortune 20 years ago...smooth yes but costly to repair and maintain...they are not a reliable engine. The six was a far more reliable engine. I used to have a friend who was a service manager at a Jaguar dealer in MD.

The Small block chevy while a simpler engine is more efficient and makes more power, and is more reliable than either engine with less weight. Thats why its a popular swap.

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I disagree, it makes good sense, and I would buy it.



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Me too. It'd be a cool (and definatley rare) thing to have.

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'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

The Small block chevy while a simpler engine is more efficient and makes more power, and is more reliable than either engine with less weight. Thats why its a popular swap.[/QUOTE]
not to mentiom that it came with th400 trans (gm made those)