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Old 04-17-2006, 07:33 PM
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R12 - Anybody got a can or two they don't need?

I don't want to go through the hassle of taking the test to buy a couple of cans of R12 for my '64, it just needs to be topped up and I have the hose with connector already from days past...if anyone has some they don't need or just want to sell please contact me by PM. Thanks.

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Old 04-18-2006, 01:26 AM
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i found some on ebay if that's any help.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:39 AM
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The test is a whopping $15 at www.imaca.org. It's open book and I did the whole thing in about 30 minutes.
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:51 AM
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The test is a whopping $15 at www.imaca.org. It's open book and I did the whole thing in about 30 minutes.
Just do it. That was the best $15 I've spent in a LOOONG time...I love pulling that card out when some parts counter jackass says he can't sell me R-12.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:22 AM
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Just do it. That was the best $15 I've spent in a LOOONG time...I love pulling that card out when some parts counter jackass says he can't sell me R-12.
Have you been able to find R-12 in small cans? I want to convert my 300D back to R-12, but I don't want to buy a 30 lb bottle.

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Old 04-18-2006, 09:38 AM
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Yes. I bought some small cans at the auto parts store a couple years ago. They don't have it on the shelves; you have to ask for it. When I asked, the kid at the counter didn't even know what R12 was. The manager overheard me explaining, and said it was kept in his office. He took a peek at my card, had me sign some sort of sales register, and away I went.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:45 AM
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My car needs 1 can a year. I usually get it at NAPA for $34 + tax. I just bought 3 14 oz. cans and a 4 oz. oil charge on eBay for $57 shipped! You just have to email them a scan of your EPA cert.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:07 AM
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Have you been able to find R-12 in small cans? I want to convert my 300D back to R-12, but I don't want to by a 30 lb bottle.
A local Austin parts house, A-Line, has the small cans.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:35 PM
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I just read the post this morning and completed the test.....100%

Now I buy R12 and have cold AC in the 77 300D!
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And to think that I have been studying for weeks.....
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:21 PM
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It's open book just use the ctrl F to seach key words in the PDF study guide...


(1)How long must a tank of recycled refrigerant be stored before being checked for non-condensables?

(2)Which of the following harmful effects is NOT associated with ozone depletion?

(3)Which of the following effects on plants of increased exposure to ultraviolet radiation is cited in the manual?

(4)Which of the following is NOT a maximum level of recycled refrigerant contamination specified by SAE Standard J1991?

(5)EPA evaluates all substitutes for CFC-12 under its SNAP program. Which of the following is NOT considered by EPA?

(6)Which of the following effects is NOT attributed in the training manual to stratospheric ozone depletion/increased ultraviolet radiation?

(7)Which of the following chemicals is LEAST destructive to the stratospheric ozone layer?

(8)Under EPA’s SNAP requirements for use of R12 substitutes, which of the following statements is true?

(9)In what type of tank may recycled refrigerant be stored?

(10)If used CFC-12 or HFC-134a is to be re-used from A/C equipment other than an automotive air conditioner, what purity standard must it meet for mobile A/C re-use?

(11)The technician's first step in A/C system service should be to:

(12)If parts of contaminated CFC systems are cleaned by flushing with CFCs, which procedure should be used?

(13)How can you be sure that HFC-134a recycling equipment is certified to clean refrigerant to meet industry standards?

(14)In the training manual, which of the following is NOT associated with ozone depletion?

(15)What should you do if you determine that a container of recycled refrigerant contains excess non-condensable gases?

(16)What can happen if a refrigerant tank is overfilled?

(17)When recycling equipment is used to remove refrigerant from a mobile A/C system, what amount of lubricant will be removed during the operation?

(18)What must be done with the CFC-12 after removing it from mobile A/C systems using extraction equipment meeting SAE J2209 requirements?

(19)What is the proper method of flushing HFC-134a systems with CFC-11 or CFC-12?

(20)Which A/C service fitting(s) must be changed when converting an A/C system from one refrigerant to another?

(21)Which of the following mobile A/C systems requires additional time/precautions to extract all the refrigerant?

(22)What pressure gauge scale is required to check for non-condensables?

(23)After completing the first refrigerant recovery process and shutting off the recovery unit, how long should you wait before checking the vehicle’s A/C system to determine that no refrigerant remains in the system?

(24)The tax on new CFCs will continue to rise throughout the decade. Which of the following statements is true regarding recycled CFCs from mobile air conditioners?

(25)When using leak trace dyes for detecting refrigerant leaks, what is the proper procedure?

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has advised the Mobile Air Conditioning Society Worldwide that technicians testing for "CFC-12 Refrigerant Recycling & Service Procedures" certification must provide their driver's license number and a signed statement verifying that their test was taken without aid or assistance. Please complete this form before submitting your test.

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Old 04-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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Take the test...its something else you can claim bragging rights to having...its not that difficult or expensive to get....and it doesn't expire. You could log in, study and take the test before its dinner time today.
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WAIT A SEC GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I go to any parts store (napa, advance, bumper to bumper, sams...), and buy r-12 from them, with this lisance?

Special stores carry it? Can I ask over the Phone? Do I need to go out of Wisconsin?

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I thought they stopped making it, and I was SOL for my A/C, because I refuse to convert it.

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Old 04-18-2006, 04:47 PM
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Can I go to any parts store (napa, advance, bumper to bumper, sams...), and buy r-12 from them, with this lisance?

Special stores carry it? Can I ask over the Phone? Do I need to go out of Wisconsin?

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I thought they stopped making it, and I was SOL for my A/C, because I refuse to convert it.

Yes, many car parts stores carry them still, and they look at people with the EPA license is AC pros. They are either old stock or they can still import them under licence for the older cars. As more countries phase out R12 (you can stll buy it over the counter in Mexico), it will get more expensive over time. For those who intend to stay with R12, it is a good idea to stock up. The best deals are still on Ebay. There are people who get rid of their old cars and have the R12 cans lying around. I bought a dozen cans on Ebay for about $250 shipped. When you buy them make sure the cars are not rusty, and store them it a cool dry place. Many car repair places will not deal with R12 because the R12 cannot be mixed with 134a, and they need separate systems for the waste. If you do it yourself, stay with R12.
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:41 PM
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So let me get this straight... ANYONE without any proof of being a certified mechanic can take this test and get this license? Sounds almost too easy... Is the point here simply to educate anyone who uses R-12 on its proper storage, usage, and recycling procedures?

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