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Old 05-08-2006, 04:19 PM
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Why Real Men don't use Air Tools....

Actually I am not a real man, I love a nap in the afternoon and I love holding the Dog when I take a nap and I get a tear or 2 when I watch movies ( of course not Brokeback Mountain), I dont watch football and I stopped drinking beer years ago, and I dont have a GMAC Diesel Cummins 6 wheeler pick up with a 15 foot bed.

But air tools and power tools for their sake drive me nuts, they scare the neighbors, waste electricity and they waste money. Chances are some IQ, a few seconds and something called leverage will save the day. I always train my daughter to use her foot to loosen the lug nuts on the first few turns.

Also some are just for the Lazy. I once watched a lithe tiny Irish man roof a huge house without a nail gun. Every nail was hit by his well aimed hammer, three whacks a shot.
The money could be better spent on more Hand Tools!

Now grinding , sanding , and deburring and painting, thats another issue.

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Old 05-08-2006, 04:26 PM
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Real men use levers. Short ones.

I got out the 700ft/lb air impact wrench the other day to change a lawn-mower blade.
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:29 PM
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What does this have to do with diesels?
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:33 PM
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Here are some equivalents....

Impact Wrench = PIPE
Buffing Wheel for Car Wax = (R u really kidding me?)
Electric Screw Gun = Hand ratchet
Air chisel = Hammer + Cold Steel chisel + 22 bandaids
Cutoff wheel= hacksaw
Air Ratchet = hand ratchet
Gloves = Bandaids
Plastic Parts Bag opener = Teeth + Dentist Bill
Cleaning air = household vacuum cleaner
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Old 05-08-2006, 04:44 PM
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I dunno, I sorta like to entertain the neighbors with the various air tools - air chisel, air nibbler, air sander/grinder. After the sound show then the light show starts with the welder. Then there's the flame show and shout-dance following that, but preferably without the typical 4th-of-July finale. [ BOOM ]



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Old 05-08-2006, 05:47 PM
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Impact Wrench = PIPE
Buffing Wheel for Car Wax = (R u really kidding me?)
Electric Screw Gun = Hand ratchet
Air chisel = Hammer + Cold Steel chisel + 22 bandaids
Cutoff wheel= hacksaw
Air Ratchet = hand ratchet
Gloves = Bandaids
Plastic Parts Bag opener = Teeth + Dentist Bill
Cleaning air = household vacuum cleaner
does Dentist Bill come to your home often? does he charge much dollar bills for a house call? does he know buffalo bill or for than matter bungalow bill? not to mention hat bill.
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Old 05-08-2006, 06:11 PM
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Carrameow, are you nuts? You don't like power tools? Son, we live in an industrial nation...we are suppose to have power tools. Keep your 3 wackin' Irish roofer...I'll use the air gun! I don't leave home without a cordless drill motor.

Yeah, I wanna go back to spending 5 minutes hand drilling a screw hole and then another 5 minutes to put in a screw. Impact off the lug nuts in less than a minute or expand my hernia with a lug wrench....hummmm, tough choice.

I like the peace and quiet as well as the next guy. To hell with bothering the nieghbors! I'm gonna power up, get done, and then kick back Jack! All this no power tools gibberish makes me wanna go polish my router bits and re-coil my extension cords.

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Old 05-08-2006, 07:01 PM
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but i love the sound of impact wrenches.. the smell of the oily air discahrged from it. makes me feel like im in a big rig shop.

but im going to just buy a manual impact wrench from sears..
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Old 05-08-2006, 07:55 PM
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After years of slipping wrenches, broken tools, cheater bars, and rounded-off nuts and bolts, I have recently invested in air tools and the ease and quality of my work has gone up 1000%. I'm not going back.

On a related note, I just got a new/old tractor out of a fence-row this weekend and I had to take a wheel off to fix a tire. One of the wheel studs was spinning and we couldn't get the nut off. The elderly dude with me insisted on breaking the nut and stud off with a dull cold chisil and a 2.5 pound hammer. About three hits with that arrangement convinced me that that was not the way that I wanted to spend my weekend. One quality minute with the torch removed the nut and stud nicely. The old fellow acted like we cheated or something. Some techniques from the old school are best left forgotten. Just my opinion.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:09 PM
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After years of slipping wrenches, broken tools, cheater bars, and rounded-off nuts and bolts, I have recently invested in air tools and the ease and quality of my work has gone up 1000%. I'm not going back.

On a related note, I just got a new/old tractor out of a fence-row this weekend and I had to take a wheel off to fix a tire. One of the wheel studs was spinning and we couldn't get the nut off. The elderly dude with me insisted on breaking the nut and stud off with a dull cold chisil and a 2.5 pound hammer. About three hits with that arrangement convinced me that that was not the way that I wanted to spend my weekend. One quality minute with the torch removed the nut and stud nicely. The old fellow acted like we cheated or something. Some techniques from the old school are best left forgotten. Just my opinion.
craftsman easyout? think it would hold up?
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There is no way I could disagree more! I live or die because of power tools. I am a contractor. There is no way I could ever make any money if I didn't use power tools. I am currently doing a roof job. Thats two roofing guns and a big compressor going. Doing a 3000sq/ft roof by hand would be sheer stupidity. Have you ever tried screwing down a subfloor by hand? It takes hours on your knees with a standard screwgun or even an impact gun. My collated screwgun allows me to stand up and drive screws about TEN times faster! You think I carry the shingles up to the roof? No way! The boom truck delivers them to the rooftop for no extra charge! Why kill yourself? I own a 38 ft sailboat. Try sanding the bottom or polishing the hull by hand. It would darn near kill you. I have a very nice 6" DA sander with a dustcollector vacuum and a big buffer to do those chores. They suck enough WITH the power tools. I only occasionally use my air tools but when I need them, I fire up the compressor. Sometimes the old ways are great but in todays world where everything and everyone is competing for my time both on and off the job the power tools get it done faster, safer and with much less effort. Now if they only could come up with a tool that picked up stripped roofing material and put it in the dumpster for me....... RT
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:33 PM
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craftsman easyout? think it would hold up?
Excellent thought! I am always singing the praises of the Craftsman bolt extractors but......... The back of the Ford tractor wheel studs are designed to keep from spinning by having a flat edge that fits up against a flat side in the hub casting. The casting wore away enough to allow the stud to spin yet the casting prevents the extractor from fitting over the stud. Hence, I felt no sense of loss by cutting off the nut and the end of the stud. Just one of those things.
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They call it a breaker bar for a reason

Because you break stuff.

Impacts are great when you have a rusted faster. The quick hits crack the rust, allowing the nut to come off.
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:47 PM
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I have a whole 3'x2' drawer dedicated to air tools for work. I wonder what that means....
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Old 05-09-2006, 12:01 AM
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I have a whole 3'x2' drawer dedicated to air tools for work. I wonder what that means....
It means you're an "airhead" (like the candy).

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