Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-16-2006, 08:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,142
how to test for bad starter in 1983 240D?

I have an 83 240D that won't start up. I bought it after it was sitting for about 1 year. I tried a known good battery from my another 300D and it cranked a few times, albeit very weakly and then the starter would not crank any further. I boguht a new battery to replace the dead one in the car and it won't even crank once. I just hear one click when I fully turn the key.

Any way to test the starter? Could it be something else.

FYI, I cleaned the battery terminal connections and the ground from the battery to passenger fire wall.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-16-2006, 09:31 PM
biobenz240d's Avatar
WNY Biodiesel Coop
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Western New York
Posts: 263
You can take a hammer and give the starter a whack and then try starting it. I have done this numerous times on all kinds of cars and trucks . It will usually get it started but get the car home or to a repair shop. If it starts there is a good chance that the starter armature has a bad spot.
__________________
'83 240D 264k on 100% biodiesel/ 31mpg
83 300D 217K the $800 gem
'82 300D 267K the new WVO project car finished and driving for free
International tractor B275 on B100
Ford 555 backhoe on B100
Sargent 25 ton Rough Terrain crane on B50
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-16-2006, 10:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,142
I'll try a hammer in the morning.

I also tried the following this evening...

external starter button switch connected to terminals on starter...it spun freely but no catch

jumped violet wire in sheath in front of battery to positive battery terminal...starter would lurch once but not catch

I also plan to check the ground wire from starter to chassis.

Btw, I noticed the negative and positive cables got real warm when I tried the violet wire jump and using the external starter bump switch...is that normal?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-17-2006, 10:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,142
hammer trick did not work
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-19-2006, 04:17 PM
biobenz240d's Avatar
WNY Biodiesel Coop
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Western New York
Posts: 263
Talking

get a bigger hammer.
__________________
'83 240D 264k on 100% biodiesel/ 31mpg
83 300D 217K the $800 gem
'82 300D 267K the new WVO project car finished and driving for free
International tractor B275 on B100
Ford 555 backhoe on B100
Sargent 25 ton Rough Terrain crane on B50
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-19-2006, 05:11 PM
stcbenz83's Avatar
Mercedes Euro 240D
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 1,056
when it was cranking, was it cranking really slow??? like an old farm tractor. when i first got my 83 240D it sounded like an old tractor, everyone said that the battery was going dead, then one day last winter, the combination of a worn lout starter and no glow plugs cause the starter to completley die. that was a fun replacement, replacing it in a parking lot when it was snowing/ and icing and was 10 deg. but when i put the new starter in, i didnt know that it was suppose to crank that fast
__________________
1983 Euro 240D 277K
2016 Mazda 6
Coming Soon, 2013 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
Formers:
2012- Mazda 3
2007 Outlander- complete pile
1995 E300 Diesel 208K
2007 VW Passat 2.0T 63K SOLD
2003 Jaguar X-type 3.0 Sport Sold 04/11 w/88K
2009 Lexus RX350 9061 miles. Sold 04/09
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS:Totaled Sept.,09 @ 24,000
2003 Infiniti I35 58K Sold
1984 300 turbo diesel 222K
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-19-2006, 05:40 PM
Grrrmachine's Avatar
'78 W123 200D Manual
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 18
Thank god for this thread! I've had a W123 200D (yes, the baby diesel engine) sat outside my house for six months awaiting work. When I parked her up, she started fine, but now, with a fresh battery (90Ah) I dont even get a click from the solenoid. Shorting out the big solenoid/starter links makes the starter run healthy enough (although the bendix doesnt engage without the solenoid), but Im unsure how to check whether it's the solenoid or the starter switch - how do I bypass the ignition to get the solenoid to start?

Bear in mind that Im terrible with electrics - I could do with a walkthrough...


Last edited by Grrrmachine; 08-19-2006 at 06:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page