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Old 09-01-2006, 02:37 PM
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Question Is there a test for diesel exhaust gasses in engine coolant?

Don't own a Merc, but have two VW TDIs.

The wife's Jetta recently showed a "rise" in coolant level in the expansion tank, with no other symptoms at all. The car is stock, has 160,000 miles, and has never overheated. TB and water pump were changed 1 year ago. Coolant was added then, and hasn't been touched since.

No overheating, no water or glycol in the oil on oil analysis, no white smoke, no rough running, no bubbling when reservoir cap is removed.

Nevertheless, because the pressure inside the EGR cooler is lower than the pressurized cooling system, a bad head gasket remains suspect #1.

There is no real discoloration of the pink coolant, so oil cooler seems to be out as the culprit.

Thus, I was wondering if there is a chemical test to determine whether exhaust gases (diesel) are in the coolant.

Thanks for your indulgence and any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 09-01-2006, 02:45 PM
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That test is called a "soot test" or "particulate test". Blackstone labs at one time did them.
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Old 09-01-2006, 02:54 PM
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You can also remove squeeze the upper radiator hose, after the engine has cooled. There should not be any pressure on a cold engine's upper radiator hose.
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That test is called a "soot test" or "particulate test". Blackstone labs at one time did them.
The coolant usually will become noticably darker in color because of the soot/carbon carried in the exhaust gases.
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Wouldn't this work on diesels as well as gas engines. It's just looking (chemically) for CO in the coolant.

http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8195
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Wouldn't this work on diesels as well as gas engines. It's just looking (chemically) for CO in the coolant.

http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8195
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Wouldn't this work on diesels as well as gas engines. It's just looking (chemically) for CO in the coolant.

http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=8195

That's cool.

Thanks a lot guys!

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Didn't I hear something about very little or no carbon monoxide in diesel exhaust? For example, one can't commit suicide by running a diesel engined vehicle in a closed garage.

Would this Combustion Leak Tester be better, since it claims the test fluid is for gas or diesel??
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I've used another maker's version of that last kit, one that required seperate fluids for diesel and gas. They work REALLY well for detecting bad stuff happening in the cooling system.

I found a cracked head with one, almost instantly shifted colors in the fluid.

I'm told that some shops will use exhaust gas analyzers waved over the coolant fill port to detect it, as well.
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I've used another maker's version of that last kit, one that required seperate fluids for diesel and gas. They work REALLY well for detecting bad stuff happening in the cooling system.

I found a cracked head with one, almost instantly shifted colors in the fluid.

I'm told that some shops will use exhaust gas analyzers waved over the coolant fill port to detect it, as well.
I have used and exhaust gas analyzer for that purpose but only on gasoline engines. On diesel engines there is not enough carbon monoxide in the exhaust to detect with the analyzer.
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I've used another maker's version of that last kit, one that required seperate fluids for diesel and gas. They work REALLY well for detecting bad stuff happening in the cooling system.

I found a cracked head with one, almost instantly shifted colors in the fluid.

I'm told that some shops will use exhaust gas analyzers waved over the coolant fill port to detect it, as well.

Thanks for the feeback.

I'm going to purchase that kit thru Amazon and will post the results.
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napa carries the block testers and block test fluid

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