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Old 09-06-2006, 01:37 AM
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Mine is behind the headlight so I am not too worried about water. I know that they do not filter as well, but it beats the filter I had.
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Old 09-06-2006, 01:42 AM
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Mine is behind the headlight so I am not too worried about water.
You are right. I was talking about the "cold air" setups that have the filter infront of the wheel, down low, under the bumper, etc... Those are the places where water can be sucked in quickest.

Behind the headlight is no problem unless you are fording rivers. It just sucks in less than ideal air
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Old 09-06-2006, 10:12 AM
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If it's about looks, go for it. The factory setup is very good, both at sourcing cold air from in front of the radiator, and in filtering the air for a long engine life. It would be work to improve the factory setup, but obviously it can be done, just not at the price of an oil and gauze filter.
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Old 09-06-2006, 03:40 PM
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Mine is behind the headlight so I am not too worried about water. I know that they do not filter as well, but it beats the filter I had.
Here is the one I put in; it also deals with the oil separator and flows plenty of air. That turbo whine is almost as loud as my 99 F250 Powerstroke's.
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Old 09-06-2006, 04:13 PM
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. That turbo whine is almost as loud as my 99 F250 Powerstroke's.
thats what i want.. so everyone knows ive got a turbodiesel... i was thinking of doingsomething like that and a oil seperator from a 240D since last i checked that had an external seperator
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Old 09-06-2006, 05:03 PM
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Here is the one I put in; it also deals with the oil separator and flows plenty of air. That turbo whine is almost as loud as my 99 F250 Powerstroke's.
Are you the person that sells those on ebay?

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thats what i want.. so everyone knows ive got a turbodiesel... i was thinking of doing something like that and a oil seperator from a 240D since last i checked that had an external seperator
Only the later 240s (81 and up I think) have those seperators
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Old 09-06-2006, 05:17 PM
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Are you the person that sells those on ebay?

No, but I can give you his info if you wish. I bought it for $150. My car is an 85 300D.

Only the later 240s (81 and up I think) have those seperators
The 300D intake system is ugly and big, plus the 180 degree bend doesn't help airflow. The larger straighter tubing in his kit is much less restrictive. The replacement separator was part of the kit. Removing that ugly stock intake made room for my dual stage vegoil filter.
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Old 09-06-2006, 07:00 PM
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i'd stick with the oem/stock air filter. the reason these mb engines lasted for 20+ years is because of the highly efficient stock/oem filters that it has been using for 20+ years. if mb installed a high flow air filters like k&n 20 years ago, i don't think that these mb diesels will still run today. those are racing filters were you drive your car on a race track where almost no dust and road particles and debris, and those race cars engines are beaing overhauled and rebuilt after each race and some of them can't even reach the finish line.
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Old 09-06-2006, 07:11 PM
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i'd stick with the oem/stock air filter. the reason these mb engines lasted for 20+ years is because of the highly efficient stock/oem filters that it has been using for 20+ years. if mb installed a high flow air filters like k&n 20 years ago, i don't think that these mb diesels will still run today. those are racing filters were you drive your car on a race track where almost no dust and road particles and debris, and those race cars engines are beaing overhauled and rebuilt after each race and some of them can't even reach the finish line.
I agree, but we were all young and foolish once. I hacked up my share of cars too. They'll get bored and move on to something else.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:15 AM
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i'd stick with the oem/stock air filter. the reason these mb engines lasted for 20+ years is because of the highly efficient stock/oem filters that it has been using for 20+ years. if mb installed a high flow air filters like k&n 20 years ago, i don't think that these mb diesels will still run today. those are racing filters were you drive your car on a race track where almost no dust and road particles and debris, and those race cars engines are beaing overhauled and rebuilt after each race and some of them can't even reach the finish line.
I have used K&N style performance air filters on all of my vehicles for over a decade now. I have not once had any problems. They flow better but they filter better too; they're just a better design. I know guys with over 300k miles on their Powerstrokes running [similar] performance systems and they see PLENTY of off road conditions - WAY, WAY more than my 300D ever will. But unfortunately as vstech pointed out, something should be done to get colder air directly to it. With that stock mess removed I had plenty of room to mount my veg oil filter system; no way I could have put it in there with that in the way.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:23 PM
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i'd stick with the oem/stock air filter. the reason these mb engines lasted for 20+ years is because of the highly efficient stock/oem filters that it has been using for 20+ years. if mb installed a high flow air filters like k&n 20 years ago, i don't think that these mb diesels will still run today. those are racing filters were you drive your car on a race track where almost no dust and road particles and debris, and those race cars engines are beaing overhauled and rebuilt after each race and some of them can't even reach the finish line.

Yes that is the truth! Filtration is key to longevity in these engines. Bypass oil filters, double fuel filters, very effective air filters. If you want more performance then I would look to another car, the MB were designed for fuel mileage, safety and reliability, not speed.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:54 PM
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The 300D intake system is ugly and big, plus the 180 degree bend doesn't help airflow. The larger straighter tubing in his kit is much less restrictive. The replacement separator was part of the kit. Removing that ugly stock intake made room for my dual stage vegoil filter.
Ugly, it may be, but it is much superior to the system you have on there now. The bend may restrict airflow, but even with the stock setup, you're still taking in more than enough air than the engine needs due to the turbocharger.
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